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CMC-Stan
Fluorite | Level 6
For 3 variances, with 2 correlated, that might be a heuristic approach that gets to an approximate df. But right now, we're struggling with finding a way to get it for 2. I think we're all agreed now that SAS doesn't provide such a calculation in MIXED or GLIMMIX. At this point, we have to resort to writing our own code to carry this out. I wonder if it's worth it given that it's straightforward to just use the PRIOR option in MIXED and generate it from the posteriors.
lvm
Rhodochrosite | Level 12 lvm
Rhodochrosite | Level 12

If you have a recent version of SAS/STAT, you could directly use PROC BGLIMM for a full Bayesian analysis. 

CMC-Stan
Fluorite | Level 6
Better to stay with empirical Bayes estimates from MIXED for a problem like this, since the posteriors will give results based on the Jeffreys priors.
lvm
Rhodochrosite | Level 12 lvm
Rhodochrosite | Level 12

The text indicated df calculated using the Satterthwaite method. But I have only scanned this.

tianlin_wang
SAS Employee

 

Obviously, PROC MIXED does not provide direct answer. But you can get it outside of PROC MIXED.

Ask PROC MIXED to save/print var(L'B0) and v_b_hat. Once you have these two items, then you can construct your own interval limits.

 

Hope trhis helps,

Tianlin Wanhg

CMC-Stan
Fluorite | Level 6
thanks Tianlin, of course that's possible, but how do you get the Satterthwaite adjusted degrees of freedom is the other question.

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