Hi Ivm, Thanks for the response. Question: what criteria do i use to decide which covariance model to use or do i have to test for the various models (CS, CSH, UN, AR, Toeplitz) then check the likelihood/information criterion? Then when you say default df method, that means nothing should be added in the model statement after all the effects have been put? Just tried a run and my SAS version doesn't have HPMIXED. My version is SAS 9.1.3 portable Sophie
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