Coding Zero-Shot Learning in SAS Environment

[Mahis]

Hello everyone,

Can zero-shot learning be implemented directly in SAS Guide? If not, are SAS Enterprise Miner or SAS Viya better for this task?

[SASKiwi]

I think you will need to provide more details of your "zero-shot learning" use case before we can give any useful responses.

[Mahis]

for example if we want to use zero-shot learning for customer segmentation to classify customers into segments based on new products or services, without having historical data on customer interactions with these new offerings.

I want to know if this possible to do in sas guide or there are limitations?

[JosvanderVelden]

The short answer is yes. I know a PhD student who is using SAS Viya for something similar. Unfortunately details can not be shared yet. For those interested in some background see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-shot_learning

[Mahis]

Is it possible to do this in SAS Enterprise Guide? I think SAS Viya offers more advanced machine learning capabilities than SAS Enterprise Guide.

[Patrick]

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@Mahis wrote:

Is it possible to do this in SAS Enterprise Guide? I think SAS Viya offers more advanced machine learning capabilities than SAS Enterprise Guide.

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You are still confusing the client side (SAS Enterprise Guide) with the server side (SAS9.4 compute or SAS Viya with compute and cas). Models execute on the compute side.

Afaik the next release of SAS Enterprise Guide (8.4) will also allow you to connect to SAS Viya. You can already now use SAS Studio for both recent SAS9.4 and all Viya versions.

I'd recommend to use SAS Studio over SAS Enterprise Guide especially when working with Viya.

[Mahis]

Thank you for the clarification. When comparing SAS Enterprise Guide and SAS Viya, I'm looking at their machine learning abilities. SAS Viya seems to offer deep learning and Python integration, while SAS Enterprise Guide relies on SAS programming and built-in ML features. So, I'm wondering if we can implement zero-shot learning with just SAS EG (or SAS Studio) or if we need external tools. Also, would this require any additional tools in the SAS 9.4 license?

[Patrick · Accepted solution]

"When comparing SAS Enterprise Guide and SAS Viya...."

You are still trying to compare apples with oranges (client with SAS version). You would of course go for the latest Viya version because that's the one with the latest functionality SAS has to offer.

If your business case is big enough to get budget for a potential upgrade and/or the purchase of additional SAS modules then I'd recommend that you get directly in contact with SAS to get their advice on the best option for you. If you don't have such a budget then may-be best is you first investigate to what SAS version, modules and clients you actually got access and go from there.

[Mahis]

Thank you all for your help @SASKiwi @JosvanderVelden @Patrick , I will try this first "investigate to what SAS version, modules and clients you actually got access and go from there".

[Patrick]

SAS Enterprise Guide (EG) and SAS Enterprise Miner are clients that can run SAS code on a SAS Server. Which client is better suited for developing, managing and running your model is your choice.

SAS Viya 4 is SAS most recent version of SAS (as compared to SAS9.4) which you then access via a client (the EG version for connecting to Viya is in the making). You could also consider clients like SAS Studio (especially for Viya).