BookmarkSubscribeRSS Feed
Suki
Fluorite | Level 6

Hello everyone,

 

I have two constraints to choose my random sample without replacement. I want to do a survey of 100 people. My two constraints are:

  1. I want 10 subgroups of people whose zip code ends with 0 through 9. The first subgroup of 10 persons’ zip code ends with 0, second subgroup’s zip code ends with 1, and so on until 9. (I did this part with PROC SURVEYSELECT and STRATA)
  2. Then here is the tricky part (second constraint), I don’t want to choose more than 5 people from any state. In other words, I need a way to randomly select people based on their zip code AND their state.  (This is the part that I need help on.)

Thanks in advance.

7 REPLIES 7
ballardw
Super User

How many states are in your sample frame?

Suki
Fluorite | Level 6

I have 50 states in my sample frame. Also I have ANOTHER constraint that needs to be included. So just to be clear, let me repeat my problem once again (with the additional constraint).

 

1. My sample frame has 50 states and zip codes that end with 0 through 9. Firstly, I want to randomly sample 100 observations (10 subgroups of 10 observations each) based on their zip code. (First subgroup of 10 observations has zip code ending with 0, second subgroup has zip code ending with 1, etc.)

 

2. Second constraint (with the new constraint) is that I want at most 5 observations from state1, at most 3 observations from state2 and all other states must be included less than 2. This is the stage that I am having a problem.

 

Thanks again for your help.

Astounding
PROC Star

Intuitively, that seems to violate the definition of a random sample.  California has many more people living there than Montana.  Why should California be limited to 5 observations?  Or is my intuition just wrong here?

PGStats
Opal | Level 21

Same question as @ballardw. If you choose 10 people from a population spreaded over 50 states, it is very unlikely that 5 of them will be from the same state. You could simply pick another sample if it ever occured. 

 

PG
Suki
Fluorite | Level 6

Please see my reply above. It is unlikely but I want my sampling method to be "systematically correct" meaning that I am wondering if there is a way to do it with SAS functions.

ballardw
Super User

Run proc freq (or favorite summarization procedure) on your resultant sample after adding a state variable (ZIPSTATE, ZIPNAME or ZIPNAMEL functions), or if the state is already in the sample. Check the counts, if not as desired, then resample.

 

I have dones something similar because of costs associated with a study BUT I have a sneaking feeling in the back of my mind that frequent resampling may be isn't quite getting the correct sample weights. A moderate amount of code could create this as a macro loop.

 

Or if your source data is large enough, request a number of Replicates (REP= option) and examine each replicate for fitting within your constraits and select appropriate replicates.

PGStats
Opal | Level 21

Following @ballardw's suggestion, here is an example. The goal here is to get no state with 3 or more selected units and at most two states with 2 selected units for any given zip code termination digit.

 

data frame;
call streamInit(17646);
do state = 1 to 50;
    do id = 1 to 1000;
        zip = int(10*rand("UNIFORM"));
        output;
        end;
    end;
run;

proc sort data=frame; by zip state; run;

%macro mySurvey;
%do %until(&n3=0 AND &n2<=2);
    proc surveyselect data=frame out=sample sampsize=10;
    strata zip;
    run;

    proc sql;
    select
        max(n3s),
        max(n2s)
    into :n3, :n2
    from (
        select
            sum(n >= 3) as n3s, 
            sum(n >= 2) - sum(n >= 3) as n2s
        from (
            select 
                zip, 
                count(*) as n
            from sample 
            group by zip, state)
        group by zip)
    ;
    quit; 
%end;
%mend mySurvey;

%mySurvey;

proc sql;
select zip, state, count(*) as n from sample group by zip, state;
quit;

 

PG

sas-innovate-2024.png

Join us for SAS Innovate April 16-19 at the Aria in Las Vegas. Bring the team and save big with our group pricing for a limited time only.

Pre-conference courses and tutorials are filling up fast and are always a sellout. Register today to reserve your seat.

 

Register now!

What is Bayesian Analysis?

Learn the difference between classical and Bayesian statistical approaches and see a few PROC examples to perform Bayesian analysis in this video.

Find more tutorials on the SAS Users YouTube channel.

Click image to register for webinarClick image to register for webinar

Classroom Training Available!

Select SAS Training centers are offering in-person courses. View upcoming courses for:

View all other training opportunities.

Discussion stats
  • 7 replies
  • 2240 views
  • 1 like
  • 4 in conversation