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06-07-2024
12:57 PM
@PaigeMiller Well, first of all, thank you for your reply. I skimmed through your replies and found it may match my requirements. It feels good that someone ultimately attempts to address the problem after so many replies.
But I think it unfair to claim that someone has not searched for answers without investigating if the person has actually performed any search. Well, I would like to say that I had not raised questions on that, but I did had searched on this Community and retrieved no usable result. It is then when I posted this suggestion online.
Still, I think that softwares easy to use are better. I have not yet verified if the ODS tactic you mentioned can actually help to solve the problem, but even if it can, consider the long learning curve of the vast amount of knowledge concerning ODS as well as the formidable amount of options and codes revolving it. Only a person skillful enough can handle the circumstance I mention in a rapid manner. Considering the fact that arranging the panels with designated number of columns in each row is such a common issue, wouldn't it be better if a more user-friendly alternative can be found to green-handers of SAS to that more people wish to embrace it?
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10-24-2023
07:53 AM
There is no "formula" for bootstrap confidence intervals; rather there is an algorithm which relies on iteration (and usually requires computer programming to achieve, as at least in PROC PLS, there is no bootstrapping built in). See https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/tag/bootstrap-and-resampling
I am not aware of articles that compute standard errors or confidence intervals for PLS Models. In fact, almost every usage of PLS I have seen published ignores this entirely; if the model cross-validation says that the entire model is statistically significant, then the rest of the questions you ask are essentially ignored. PLS was developed outside the statistical community, and now that the statistical community has begun using PLS, they ask these questions, but I don't think there are answers, other than bootstrap and similar methods.
In the special case of Logistic PLS, where the algorithm actually fits many univariate logistic regressions, you can get the chi-squared test result (p-value and/or confidence interval) for each coefficient in the loading vectors; and also for the overall regression coefficient.
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10-24-2023
07:45 AM
@Season wrote:
Well, I wasn't asking about the definition of cross-validation and AIC. Rather, I was asking the way they can be applied to ascertaining the number of components in partial least squares logistic regression.
I didn't give you a definition of these items. Both of my comments above are related to how these statistics can be applied.
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10-22-2023
08:04 AM
@PaigeMiller Thanks for reminding! The paper you suggested yesterday will suffice.
Algorithm link: PLS generalised linear regression
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10-21-2023
11:40 AM
All right. Thank you for your attention paid to and time spent on me!
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10-21-2023
09:47 AM
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To view how well the model discriminates those with and those without the event, the user needs the area under the receiver operating characteristic curve (AUC). However, the options for the users are limited when the INMODEL= option is specified in the PROC LOGISTIC statement, with AUC only available when the user specifies both the SCORE statement and the FITSTAT option. But a big deficit in the process is the lack of confidence interval of AUC, which is automatically computed and displayed in the ROC statement but is not available when the INMODEL= option is specified in the PROC LOGISTIC statement. Therefore, when the user is validating a model, he/she cannot obtain it directly.
What is more, the formula of the standard error of the AUC is not reported in anywhere of SAS Help, so the user is unable to calculate the confidence interval on his/her own.
Therefore, I suggest that SAS (1) automatically compute the standard error and confidence interval of the AUC when the INMODEL= option is specified in the PROC LOGISTIC statement; (2) include the formula of the standard error of AUC in SAS Help.
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10-21-2023
09:19 AM
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Thank you for sharing!
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10-21-2023
09:14 AM
Thank you very much!
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10-15-2023
11:31 AM
Thank you for your reminder! Actually, I helped that person not because I anticipated reply from him/her. It seems that he/she had not known much about multiple imputation by then, so I had not expected fruitful reply from the original poster in the first place. Maybe his/her reply to my message would simply be "Thank you". But of course things will change in six years, so maybe the poster has been a master of multiple imputation by now. But it's OK that he/she never respond to my message.
The reason why I gave my reply was that I felt happy in the course of doing so. Also, I feel that the problems he/she encountered are in fact commonplace. Other people may benefit from viewing my post. In addition, by replying to him/her, I would like to arouse the attention of statisticians in this Community that there are still frequently encountered problems unsolved in the realm of multiple imputation. Furthermore, such a problem is also ubiquitous in resampling where multiple samples are created. It would be of my great honor if my questions raised here eventually turned first into research projects of statisticians and then solutions to them published in literatures. This is a win-win situation for both of us.
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10-15-2023
11:23 AM
Wow! 😀Thank you so much, Koen, for your wonderful reply! I never thought of receiving a solution to that problem! I will investigate the literatures you referenced in depth.
Thank you again for bearing my question in mind for such a long time!
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10-15-2023
12:26 AM
Thank you, Dave, for your reply!
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04-16-2023
06:50 AM
Hello, there. It has been many years since you raised the question. I wonder if that problem has been solved right now. I am also building a logistic regression model and has been working on the issue of misclassification error for some time. As SAS Help shows, the formula of misclassification rate is . Simply speaking, according to this formula, the proportion of observations that were misclassified is designated as the misclassification rate. In SAS Help, it is stated that an observation is classified into the level with the largest probability.
For instance, suppose the dependent variable has two levels, 0 and 1. If P(Y=1) (posterior probability) of an observation is not smaller than P(Y=0) (posterior probability), then SAS deems that according to the model, the event coded by Y=1 happens to the observation; and vice versa.
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04-15-2023
04:02 AM
Thank you for your comments! As you have mentioned, the fact that principal component analysis takes only the X-matrix into account is a major inherent limitation of it.
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04-10-2023
10:27 AM
Thank you for your reply. You questioned the reliability on the so-called "enhanced Bootstrap model validation method" as compared to "leave-one-out" cross validation. That has aroused my interest on the differences between the two methods. Currently, I have read reviews reporting the deficiencies of "leave-one-out" cross validation, including a selection of model with a relatively large number of variables. However, as I am busy on weekdays, I have no time to read them carefully. I also have other question that would like to raise, so I will respond to your reply after reading the articles and sorting out my questions.
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03-20-2023
06:03 PM
No, @Reeza's code with the small edit by you works perfectly at my end now. I was in Enterprise Guide, not SAS 9.4 (face palm) I told you guys I am new to this 🙂 Now, I need to figure out how to incorporate this with my extremely large dataset. It said I submitted a code that contains lines longer than 6000 characters and aborted the submission lol. I broke it up by year and lower variables (I have up to 200+ and working with 5 years' worth of monthly data). Thank you both very much. Much appreciated for the code to work off from!
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