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by Occasional Contributor dsmall2112
on ‎06-18-2014 09:58 AM

I totally agree and would welcome this enhancement.

One other enhancement I'm trying to solve for that (to me) fits into this "remove the blinders" enhancment (not sure if it's an option within EG or would be a new feature) is having the LOG and OUTPUT collect iteratively (atop eachother like PC-SAS does) rather than clear/overwrite everytime I run a selection of code (via F8).  As I step through an exploratory analysis I am forced to go back and rerun SAS procedures (some can take a while) that I need for reference in order to proceed.  Often times I paste the output to NOTEPAD so I can reference but it would be much easier if I could retain output and log from those iterative PROC FREQ/CONTENTS/MEANS/etc.

by SAS Employee RHeath
on ‎06-19-2014 12:09 PM

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Have you played with the option View << Workspace Layout, which then allows the selection of single, side-by-side, or stacked. With side-by-side, I can have two different things open at the same time, say a code file in one window and a data set for viewing in the other window. I have not figured out how to "undock" each of the windows when doing this which would even result in greater flexibility, especially if you are using two monitors. See the attached image.

by Occasional Contributor dsmall2112
on ‎06-19-2014 12:52 PM

I was NOT aware of this ....  agree it would be useful for viewing multiple views (code or datasets) simultaneously (agree an undocked method would be even better).

I still have not figured out how I could retain or "stack" the OUTPUT/LOG info (within a single SAS Program) when I run the code iteratively (one step at a time) w/out having it clear/erase each time I submit.  I don't like the handling (when you select "No" to "Do you want to replace previous results?" prompt) that creates another program tab -- I'd rather have it part of the same (original) SAS program tab and "stack" like it does in PC-SAS.

by New Contributor Stevan
on ‎09-08-2014 07:27 AM

May be linked to idea<<Switch between output tabs in version 5.1>>

by statwise
on ‎03-05-2015 01:04 PM

I agree - We should be able to chose the size, positiion, and which windows we can look at the same time - This is really useful when writing complex code - Furthermore, we should be able to access windows without using the mouse. Having the option of keyboard shortcuts is a must - may save many programmers from Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

I also agree regarding keeping the log until we ask for it to be cleared - Again, let the (seasoned) programmers decide what they need /want to see at any given time.

by Super User
on ‎03-05-2015 02:07 PM

SAS Studio, the new web-based SAS interface, brings back the the tabbed program windows the same as Display Manager and you are not limited to two open at the same time like EG. Also now each progran tab has its own log and output window. It really works well and I suggest you check it if you can.

I also read somewhere that SAS are looking at enhancing the EG windowing interface, and if they bring in the tab feature from SAS Studio I would be very pleased. Not sure when or if this might happen, but EG 7.1 still appears to have the same limitations as earlier versions. 

by Frequent Contributor
on ‎03-06-2015 07:47 AM

Regarding the retention of output and log information, this could simply be implemented as an option that when checked retains/appends the output and/or log information instead of overwriting.

by Frequent Contributor
on ‎03-06-2015 08:20 AM

Yes, I like SAS Studio. I have used it within the SAS University Edition, as my company has not yet upgraded to 9.4. It does address many of the shortcomings of EG and reintroduces capabilities that were in PC SAS like the topic of this thread.

With the addition of SAS Studio, however, another user interface clouds the landscape. EG, Enterprise Miner, and SAS Studio (DI Studio, as well, but is a specific tool for ETL flows instead of a general analytical tool) should be unified into a single user interface. All of these tools present the concepts of a project, process/work flow, nodes that execute tasks that generate output (log, data, and results). However, each of them implement those concepts in a different way. Why doesn't SAS unify them into a single user interface? I thnk there are more similarities than differences, and a single user interface will go far in building cohesion of their brand. Honestly, these products appear to have been built by different groups who never talked to each other.

Actually, i should probable create another idea if someone hasn't already.

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