BookmarkSubscribeRSS Feed
🔒 This topic is solved and locked. Need further help from the community? Please sign in and ask a new question.
Ashwini_uci
Obsidian | Level 7

Hi,

I have ran a model using PROC LOGISTIC. However, SAS reported the message that: WARNING: The information matrix is singular and thus the convergence is questionable.

I am wondering how seriousness this problem is.  Should I just ignore this warning messsage and use the results or is there any other procedure that I need to use?

Thanks,

Ashwini

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions
PGStats
Opal | Level 21

Do not ignore that warning. It can occur when you have many independent variables and some are determined by the others (or nearly). For example, you may have categorical factor SITE with values "siteA" and "siteB" and continuous factor TEMPERATURE with value 20 at siteA and 25 at siteB. Then the two factors contain basically the same information and if you include them both in your regression, SAS will hit a mathematical problem and issue a warning. This is called overdetermination, it is only one kind of situation that can cause the warning you got. More importantly, the parameter estimates that were produced may be strongly biased and their standard errors grossly inflated. It is better that you identify the source of the problem and get rid of the warning.

PROC FREQ or PROC TABULATE are good tools for this kind of investigation.

Good luck.

PG

PG

View solution in original post

2 REPLIES 2
PGStats
Opal | Level 21

Do not ignore that warning. It can occur when you have many independent variables and some are determined by the others (or nearly). For example, you may have categorical factor SITE with values "siteA" and "siteB" and continuous factor TEMPERATURE with value 20 at siteA and 25 at siteB. Then the two factors contain basically the same information and if you include them both in your regression, SAS will hit a mathematical problem and issue a warning. This is called overdetermination, it is only one kind of situation that can cause the warning you got. More importantly, the parameter estimates that were produced may be strongly biased and their standard errors grossly inflated. It is better that you identify the source of the problem and get rid of the warning.

PROC FREQ or PROC TABULATE are good tools for this kind of investigation.

Good luck.

PG

PG

sas-innovate-2024.png

Don't miss out on SAS Innovate - Register now for the FREE Livestream!

Can't make it to Vegas? No problem! Watch our general sessions LIVE or on-demand starting April 17th. Hear from SAS execs, best-selling author Adam Grant, Hot Ones host Sean Evans, top tech journalist Kara Swisher, AI expert Cassie Kozyrkov, and the mind-blowing dance crew iLuminate! Plus, get access to over 20 breakout sessions.

 

Register now!

What is ANOVA?

ANOVA, or Analysis Of Variance, is used to compare the averages or means of two or more populations to better understand how they differ. Watch this tutorial for more.

Find more tutorials on the SAS Users YouTube channel.

Discussion stats
  • 2 replies
  • 10008 views
  • 1 like
  • 2 in conversation