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Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

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Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

 

Hi,

 

I'm trying to create a client depot (SAS9.4M4 without Base SAS) and run setup.exe -subsetclients from my PC(windows 7), but Base SAS is still included as products in the created depot. If I missing something or why SAS Foundation products is still including in depot.


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‎11-14-2017 02:22 AM
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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Hi @Riana

 

As mentioned previously, if you want to install SAS/STAT for instance (as per your screenshots) you also need to install Base SAS.

And depending on your selection, Base SAS is selected by default and you can remove it from that selection.

Said that, from the previous screen you can choose to only have a subset for Client products.

 

Please have a look at the below screenshot

Under By products, instead of using the default value, select Client products.

 

SpecifySubsetOptions.png

 

That way you won't have Base SAS with your subset depot.

 

Cheers,
Damo

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Hi Riana

 

What client(s) are you including in your subset depot ?

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

SAS EGuide, and other products but not SAS Foundation and products related to it(Base SAS, SAS/ETS,..).

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

I've found the standalone installers for SAS EG and SAS Add-In to Microsoft Office are better if these are all you want.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Agree with @SASKiwi

 

@SASKiwi, isn't there is a restiction on the stand alone installers that you then cannot install depot-only clients afterwards ?, or something along those lines. Not that it's a problem if so, just need to understand the pros and cons of the stand alones....

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

@nhvdwalt - I haven't found any such problem. The standalone installers are simpler and easier to use than the deployment wizard, but if you want to install say Management Console, then you can run the deployment wizard just to install that.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

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There are many other products that I need to include in client depot, e.g. SAS/CONNECT, SAS provider for OLE BD, SAS management console,.. if I'm able to add these products and some other in this standalone SAS EG installation? 

 

But I would like to know why when I run -subsetclients, I still getting Base SAS? is it something I missing during the creation of depot or is it problem with SAS?

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

SAS/CONNECT only works with Base SAS. Unless you are doing a full SAS install on your PCs there is no point to trying to install it. Same goes for OLE DB - should be on the SAS app server only.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Thanks @SASKiwi, some good answers.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

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Our approach is to use the standalone installers for all SAS users for EG and the SAS Add-in to MS Office and then only install Management Console on SAS Administrators' PCs. This assumes you are not installing Base SAS on PCs, just going with thin SAS clients.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

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I've attached all products(plus SAS/CONNECT, SAS/CONNECT Driver for Java, and SAS Providers for OLE DB) that I need to include in clientdepot(checked box). We had them in SAS9.4M2 clientdepot.

 

Some of users schedule jobs in Management Console and need to have it installed on their own PC.

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

I must be honest, it's a weird product set. For example, what is the client setup that has SAS/CONNECT, SAS/CONNECT Driver for Java, and SAS Providers for OLE DB installed ? Sounds weird.....

 

If I can make a suggestion. Carefully consider and then provide an absolute list of clients.

 

As @SASKiwi mentioned, OLE DB is not the way to go, so why would we need SAS Providers for OLE DB ? Also, SAS Client Configuration will come as part of SAS Enterprise Guide, so don't worry about it. So the list might look something like this...

 

END USER

- SAS Enterprise Guide

- SAS AMO

 

ADMIN

- SAS Management Console

- SAS Enterprise Guide

- SAS AMO

 

..etc.

 

Based on this list, you can then do a proper segmentation of the depot, which might even mean more than one subsetted depot.

 

Just a suggestion.....

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

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I notice you have Base SAS ticked. Are you intending to install Base SAS on PCs as well? If this was not selected a lot of the other selections would probably not be ticked. Base SAS gives you the SAS Windowing Environment which is another interface to SAS along with EG. If you have never seen these this link shows what they look like:

 

http://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/2017/04/12/whats-your-sas-interface/

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‎11-14-2017 02:22 AM
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Posts: 129

Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Hi @Riana

 

As mentioned previously, if you want to install SAS/STAT for instance (as per your screenshots) you also need to install Base SAS.

And depending on your selection, Base SAS is selected by default and you can remove it from that selection.

Said that, from the previous screen you can choose to only have a subset for Client products.

 

Please have a look at the below screenshot

Under By products, instead of using the default value, select Client products.

 

SpecifySubsetOptions.png

 

That way you won't have Base SAS with your subset depot.

 

Cheers,
Damo

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Re: Creating SAS depot with subsetclients

Thank you @Damofor your reply. I could create the depot without Base SAS , but the new depot is only 4 GB. The depot we have for SAS9.4M2 is 11 GB. Is it something that  should be considered?( I selected the same products we have in M2 depot for M4)

 

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