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    <title>topic What to do when two models have exactly same AIC/BIC and variance components estimations? in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have two models in NLMIXED (one linear-broken line and the other a quadratic broken-line) and they have the exactly same AIC, BIC and variance components. Their AIC, BIC are smaller than other models I am comparing them to. I am using this models to estimate nutritional requirements of animals. Now, I am normally reporting only the estimated requirement of the best fitting model. In this case, should I report both of them? Or there is any further analysis/investigation can be done to find which one is better?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Marcio&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 03:06:52 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>marcioadg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-07-20T03:06:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What to do when two models have exactly same AIC/BIC and variance components estimations?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/What-to-do-when-two-models-have-exactly-same-AIC-BIC-and/m-p/186386#M9668</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have two models in NLMIXED (one linear-broken line and the other a quadratic broken-line) and they have the exactly same AIC, BIC and variance components. Their AIC, BIC are smaller than other models I am comparing them to. I am using this models to estimate nutritional requirements of animals. Now, I am normally reporting only the estimated requirement of the best fitting model. In this case, should I report both of them? Or there is any further analysis/investigation can be done to find which one is better?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Marcio&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 03:06:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>marcioadg</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-20T03:06:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What to do when two models have exactly same AIC/BIC and variance components estimations?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/What-to-do-when-two-models-have-exactly-same-AIC-BIC-and/m-p/186387#M9669</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One approach is focusing on the "Story Telling" side of your model.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mohammad&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:20:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MohammadFayaz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-20T10:20:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What to do when two models have exactly same AIC/BIC and variance components estimations?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/What-to-do-when-two-models-have-exactly-same-AIC-BIC-and/m-p/186388#M9670</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would expect the quadratic to be more easily explainable in biological terms (at least if it is quadratic to a plateau).&amp;nbsp; Otherwise, linear is simpler to explain--there is an additive response above a certain cut-off.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:42:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-22T15:42:21Z</dc:date>
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