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    <title>topic proc glimmix: unbalanced design in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/proc-glimmix-unbalanced-design/m-p/25793#M943</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Hi Ryan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Take a look at the documentation regarding estimable functions and especially Type III estimable functions.&amp;nbsp; These marginal estimators are valid, but with this caveat.&amp;nbsp; The missing values need to be at least "missing at random".&amp;nbsp; My problem is always "How do I tell if the missing data is missing at random, missing completely at random, or systematically missing?"&amp;nbsp; You'll have to look at the processes that generated the data at hand.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding problems for convergence--missingness can lead to problems in this area, both in non-convergence or convergence to a local extremum rather than the global extremum.&amp;nbsp; It seems to be even more of a problem for binary endpoints for me, and I don't know why.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The bottom line, in my opinion, is that in most cases the unbalanced situation is by far best handled by mixed model methodology.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:54:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-10T11:54:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>proc glimmix: unbalanced design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/proc-glimmix-unbalanced-design/m-p/25792#M942</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My glimmix code is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;proc glimmix data=mydata method=quad;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class group time subject;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model y = group time group*time / s link=logit dist=binary;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lsmeans group*time / ilink;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random int / subject=subject;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Suppose there are 5 groups and 10 time points (5X10 design). For one of the groups (i.e., group 2), there are no data for 4 of the 10 time points. Does this pose a problem for model convergence and/or validity of results? For example, is the estimate and standard error produced by the LSMEANS statement for group 1 at time 2 valid and interpreted in the same way as if one had a fully balanced design?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;While I have read that mixed models in general can handle unbalanced data, I have not seen any literature on missing cells.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any references or thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ryan&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:22:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-07T19:22:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>proc glimmix: unbalanced design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/proc-glimmix-unbalanced-design/m-p/25793#M943</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Hi Ryan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Take a look at the documentation regarding estimable functions and especially Type III estimable functions.&amp;nbsp; These marginal estimators are valid, but with this caveat.&amp;nbsp; The missing values need to be at least "missing at random".&amp;nbsp; My problem is always "How do I tell if the missing data is missing at random, missing completely at random, or systematically missing?"&amp;nbsp; You'll have to look at the processes that generated the data at hand.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regarding problems for convergence--missingness can lead to problems in this area, both in non-convergence or convergence to a local extremum rather than the global extremum.&amp;nbsp; It seems to be even more of a problem for binary endpoints for me, and I don't know why.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The bottom line, in my opinion, is that in most cases the unbalanced situation is by far best handled by mixed model methodology.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:54:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-10-10T11:54:48Z</dc:date>
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