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    <title>topic Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;First point:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The model presented fits a separate variance for each age group, As Westfall et al. in &lt;EM&gt;Multiple Comparisons and Multiple Tests Using SAS, 2nd ed.&lt;/EM&gt; say in Chapter 10, p 274 puts it "However, with extreme heteroscedasticity, Tukey's method can fail miserably."&amp;nbsp; So, I wouldn't be using method=Tukey in this case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second point:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Westfall et al. point out that all methods are approximate under heteroscedastic variances.&amp;nbsp; In Ch. 10, he gives several methods, and points out the pros and cons of each.&amp;nbsp; I would suggest the MaxT adjustment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:10:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-04-03T12:10:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164936#M8609</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I have found procedures such as Tamhanes T2, Dunnets T3 and the Games &amp;amp; Howell procedure that deal with unequal variances in the one-way model. However, I have a Randomized complete block design, which is basically a two-way model. And variances differ quite a lot in the treatment group. In SAS for mixed models 2nd ed. (p. 369) Ramon C. Litell et. al., uses a unequal variance model,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;proc mixed data=TV ic;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;class age sex;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;model time=sex|age/DDFM=KR OUTP=R;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;repeated / group=age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;lsmeans age sex / diff adjust=Tukey;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0; color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;However, I am not sure this is correct since the multiple comparison test (Tukey), uses a pooled estimate for the variance thus affecting p-values when the variances are unequal. Is this the correct way of performing multiple comparison under unequal variance? If yes, how does the Tukey adjustment handle the unequal variances?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 15:41:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-02T15:41:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164937#M8610</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;First point:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The model presented fits a separate variance for each age group, As Westfall et al. in &lt;EM&gt;Multiple Comparisons and Multiple Tests Using SAS, 2nd ed.&lt;/EM&gt; say in Chapter 10, p 274 puts it "However, with extreme heteroscedasticity, Tukey's method can fail miserably."&amp;nbsp; So, I wouldn't be using method=Tukey in this case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Second point:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Westfall et al. point out that all methods are approximate under heteroscedastic variances.&amp;nbsp; In Ch. 10, he gives several methods, and points out the pros and cons of each.&amp;nbsp; I would suggest the MaxT adjustment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:10:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T12:10:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164938#M8611</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I look this up! Is the MaxT adjustment implemented in SAS?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:15:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T12:15:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164939#M8612</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For your code, it would be:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;proc mixed data=TV ic;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;class age sex;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;model time=sex|age/DDFM=KR OUTP=R;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;repeated / group=age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;lsmeans age sex / diff adjust=simulate(seed=1) adjdfe=row;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;I picked seed=1 but any value could be inserted.&amp;nbsp; You do want to specify a seed, so that different runs are identical.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin: 5px 0px; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; color: #000000; font-size: small;"&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:40:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T12:40:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am still a bit uncertain as to what kind of test is performed under heteroscedasticity and how close to the nominal levels of the presented p-values we could get. Is the method well explained in &lt;EM style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Multiple Comparisons and Multiple Tests Using SAS, 2nd ed.&lt;/EM&gt;? I might just pick up a copy to understand this method better!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:02:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T13:02:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164941#M8614</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Personal opinion:&amp;nbsp; I think Westfall's book is, or should be, required reading for anyone who works with designed experiments.&amp;nbsp; There is a lot of theory mixed in, but in a way that makes it easier to understand what the code is doing.&amp;nbsp; I think the method is well explained, and there are references given that relate to the performance as well as summaries of performance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:35:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T13:35:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would you recommend the sim option as a matter of SOP or are there disadvantages?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>evsanten</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T14:19:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164943#M8616</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use it as our standard method. It grew out of the ERROR message you get when Dunnett'-Hsu adjustment (previous standard) failed to converge.&amp;nbsp; SAS recommends ADJUST=SIMULATE in this case &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The biggest disadvantages that we have seen are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One-Time: an adequate number of simulations to give good results may run into long run times, especially if you are trying to meet an accuracy target, and you have a lot of endpoints.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two-Because of the behavior of the seed and the RNG stream, it makes BY variable processing much trickier in the sense that getting identical results on separate machines is harder.&amp;nbsp; We have a good method of macro looping that avoids this problem now, however.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-04-03T14:34:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I purchased the book and I am well on my way of working through it, it was, just as you said, a really good source when working with designed experiments. Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a one more question that I was hoping you could answer. I am currently working through the examples in the chapter we previously discussed and I was wondering if it would be appropriate to use the maxT/minP method when analysing experiments in a randomized complete block design.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand that the subset pivotality condtion is depedent on the hypotheses formed to get a strong control of the FWE. However, in the case where we might suspect heteroscedasticity among group levels of treatment could the single-step maxT or minP be the an appropriate solution? Are there any pitfalls that you are aware of?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 18:36:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joka</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-05-06T18:36:59Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I haven't fallen into any pits yet, but I haven't had severe heteroskedasticity in any of our data.&amp;nbsp; We do see enough that, as a standard in our mixed model analyses, we model it, and accept the risk of losing power when variances are, in fact, nearly homogeneous.&amp;nbsp; The maxT, as implemented by method=sim, is our default. Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 13:08:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your answer!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will try to find some simulation studies to determine power in these cases or conduct some myself!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 07:32:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Joka</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello Steve,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was searching the SAS forums for a solution to the same problem.&amp;nbsp; A question for you regarding your response to the original post:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to include an interaction term in the model statement?&amp;nbsp; I am working with a data set that has two factor variables, SPECIES (three levels) and PARASITISM_STATUS (two levels). The variance in the response variable is much larger in one level of parasitism_status than the other, even when transformed. Equality of variances is not a problem for "species" when the data is log10-transformed. I am interested in the interaction between these two factor variables, so my current model statement is "model y = spp parasitism_status spp*parasitism_status."&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to include this type of interaction term in the code you provided above?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:48:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PhilaRose</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The code I provided used the shorthand expression &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sex|age&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;which is identical to:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sex age sex*age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So the interaction was included.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For your approach, I would consider using PROC GLIMMIX, doing something like:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;proc glimmix data=yourdataset;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class spp parisitism_status;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model y = spp|parasitism_status /&lt;STRONG&gt; link=log&lt;/STRONG&gt;; /* Note here y is not transformed prior to analysis */&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random _residual_/group=parasitism_status;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lsmeans spp parasitism_status spp*parasitism_status/exp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lsmestimates &amp;lt;these will compare the lsmeans of interest to address your study objectives, and will adjust for multiple comparisons&amp;gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The lsmestimate statement is one of the finest blades in the Swiss Army knife that is GLIMMIX.&amp;nbsp; Rather than looking at all possible comparisons, as would the diff option in the lsmeans statement, you can narrow down to those of interest.&amp;nbsp; This is particularly important when looking at repeated measurements in time, where you really aren't very interested in comparing the mean of group 2 at timepoint 3 to the mean of group 5 at timepoint 11.&amp;nbsp; By eliminating comparisons such as these, the overall type I error can be controlled better without loss of power.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:41:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for your reply, Steve!&amp;nbsp; And thank you for drawing my attention to the lsmestimate statment in GLIMMIX.&amp;nbsp; I'm just starting to learn how to use this platform in SAS.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How does the lsmestimate statement differ from the use of contrasts?&amp;nbsp; Currently I have a GLIMMIX procedure coded for the same dataset I described, and I've used contrast statements to examine specific comparisons. Is this problematic?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:51:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PhilaRose</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/164950#M8623</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;From the Shared Concepts section of the documentation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In contrast to the linear functions that are constructed with the &lt;A href="http://127.0.0.1:60512/help/statug.hlp/statug_introcom_sect033.htm"&gt;ESTIMATE&lt;/A&gt; statement, you do not specify coefficients for the individual parameter estimates. Instead, with the LSMESTIMATE statement you specify coefficients for the least squares means; these are then converted for you into estimable functions for the parameter estimates.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One could insert CONTRAST for ESTIMATE here. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There are some specifics to keep in mind. I would use a CONTRAST statement if I was comparing BLUPs for specific levels of random effects.&amp;nbsp; However, it does not allow for the use of the AT option to get tests at specific values of a continuous covariate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, for me, an LSMESTIMATE statement provides a way to get a linear function of the lsmeans.&amp;nbsp; That may be a contrast, or it could be an interesting function of any sort.&amp;nbsp; Depending on the MODEL statement, it may be marginal or conditional with regards to the random effects.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:29:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-12-22T15:29:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multiple comparison in the unequal variance case using PROC MIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/384471#M19999</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Here is my code:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;mixed&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; class group;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; model MPH = group/ddfm = satterth;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; repeated/group = group;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; lsmeans group/adjust = tukey diff cl;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The confidence intervals that were computed by SAS did not use Tukey critical values but used t critical values. The output indicates that the Adjustment is Tukey-Kramer so I wonder if there is a bug in the program or an error in my code.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:41:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multiple-comparison-in-the-unequal-variance-case-using-PROC/m-p/384471#M19999</guid>
      <dc:creator>dgbonett</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-07-31T23:41:34Z</dc:date>
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