topic Re: subject in repeated statement of proc mixed in Statistical Procedures

subject in repeated statement of proc mixed

Peter_Y — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 15:57:51 GMT

Hello:

I hope to run a mixed model with proc mixed but get confused by the syntax of subject option in the repeated statement. Suppose we have several clinical trials which collects variables: response, treatment, patient_id, baseline, study_id. I saw someone using

proc mixed;

class patient_id drug;

model response = baseline treatment;

repeated / subject=study_id(patient_id) group=study_id;

run;

what does "study_id(patient_id)" means? None of the SAS books I have specify subject variable with another variable in parenthesis next to it. Really confused......

Thanks,

Peter

Re: subject in repeated statement of proc mixed

mohamed_zaki — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 22:02:23 GMT

Although i think your code is typo

but this mean that you specify that your data is nested

check this for more clarification

http://www.thejuliagroup.com/documents/procmixed1.pdf

Re: subject in repeated statement of proc mixed

SteveDenham — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:03:11 GMT

Peter,

There is a high likelihood that patient_id is unique within a study, but may not be across studies. This nested characteristic gives rise to the parentheses notation. However, if you inspect the parameterization documentation for PROC MIXED, you find that study_id(patient_id) and study_id*patient_id have identical matrix representations. The repeated statement in the code snippet you provided thus guarantees (provide the data are clean) unique identification of each subject, and separate variance components due to study.

Steve Denham

Re: subject in repeated statement of proc mixed

Peter_Y — Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:37:38 GMT

Is this the only reason for using the parentheses notation? If I create a unique id at patient level, I don't need parentheses notation? I am really confused when people start to talk about nested or crossover effects. I thought the parentheses notation has sth. to do with the model itself......

Thanks,

Peter

Re: subject in repeated statement of proc mixed

SteveDenham — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:30:48 GMT

If patient id is unique, then you don't need the parenteheses (or crossed, for that matter) notation.

Steve Denham