topic Re: How to interpret GLM ouput? in Statistical Procedures

How to interpret GLM ouput?

Babloo — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:21:19 GMT

I'm new user to Modelling and now I've struck whilst interpreting the GLM output.

What does F value and Pr > F denotes? I've F value as 49.63 Pr > F as <.0001? When I should reject my null hypothesis for 95% CI and what is the significance behind F value?

Thanks for any help you offer.

Re: How to interpret GLM ouput?

PaigeMiller — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:47:50 GMT

The F-statistic compares two variances by dividing them, in the simple case of a one-way PROC GLM model, it would be the variance* of the model divided by the variance* of the residuals. A large number for the F-statistic indicates that the variability of the model term being tested is larger than the error variability, and if this number is large enough, then you say the F-statistic is statistically significant (in layman's terms, the F-statistic wouldn't get this large by random chance, and so we conclude that the result is due to a statistically significant effect). The Pr>F idnicates the probability of getting this large of an F-statistic if the null hypothesis was true. A Pr>F of less than 0.05 would indicate the effect is statistically significant with 95% confidence.

All of this is basic hypothesis testing, and if my paragraph above is not clear to you, then you probably ought to read a text on basic statistics and hypothesis testing.

* — well actually these are not variances but rather mean squares from the model, but they are very similar to variances

Re: How to interpret GLM ouput?

Babloo — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:09:59 GMT

What if the F value is more than 1000 ,e.g.2000. Still would be significant?

How the critical value being calculated in F-statistic? Whether the critical value keeps changes when degrees of freedom changes.?

Re: How to interpret GLM ouput?

Ksharp — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:00:58 GMT

"What if the F value is more than 1000 ,e.g.2000. Still would be significant?"

Yes. I think so. since all the statistical estimator is estimating a deviation. 1000 is the F value when H0 is true. F=1000 is already significant , so F=2000 would be more significant (i.e. the deviation is bigger).

How the critical value being calculated in F-statistic?"

F estimator is a combo of two Normal distributions , check its formula at wikipedia.com

"Whether the critical value keeps changes when degrees of freedom changes.?"

No. I don't think so . It is depend on your significant degree ALPHA . i.e. is base on the ALPHA percentile .

It have nothing to do with DF .

Xia Keshan

Re: How to interpret GLM ouput?

Babloo — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:40:17 GMT

Thanks for your inputs.

'1000 is the F value when H0 is true' - if F value is significant then we should rejecting the null hypothesis. isn't? So it means H0 is NOT true. Apologize if I'm wrong.

'P' value will be 0.05 for 95% CI. Do we've any standard (like P value) F critical value for 95% CI?

Re: How to interpret GLM ouput?

Ksharp — Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:09:04 GMT

Yes. You are right .

F critical value for 95% CI is the 95% percentile of F distribution.

P=0.05= Probability( F > F0)