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    <title>topic Removal of terms from the modelsbased on change in effect estimate. in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the following text, I am trying to understand the red colored text?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any help/suggestions what it really means and how to actaully do that?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;Multivariable logistic regression was used to adjust for&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;confounding. Factors in &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: blue; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;Table&lt;BR /&gt;I &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;as well as AIDS, liver disease, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;peptic ulcer disease, obesity, alcohol or drug abuse, and&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;psychiatric disorders were included in an initial logistic r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;egression model. Age, sex, race, and renal function were &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;forced into the model, and backward stepwise logistic &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;regression was used to generate the final model. &lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;Terms whose &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;removal did not alter the effect estimate for dialysis status by&amp;nbsp; &amp;gt;1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;0% were removed in order of significance.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;Thanks,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;Ashwini&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:55:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ashwini_uci</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-12-17T02:55:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Removal of terms from the modelsbased on change in effect estimate.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Removal-of-terms-from-the-modelsbased-on-change-in-effect/m-p/101385#M5312</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the following text, I am trying to understand the red colored text?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any help/suggestions what it really means and how to actaully do that?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;Multivariable logistic regression was used to adjust for&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;OL style="list-style-type: lower-alpha;"&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;confounding. Factors in &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: blue; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;Table&lt;BR /&gt;I &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;as well as AIDS, liver disease, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;peptic ulcer disease, obesity, alcohol or drug abuse, and&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;psychiatric disorders were included in an initial logistic r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;egression model. Age, sex, race, and renal function were &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;forced into the model, and backward stepwise logistic &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: black; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;regression was used to generate the final model. &lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;Terms whose &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ff0000; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81;"&gt;removal did not alter the effect estimate for dialysis status by&amp;nbsp; &amp;gt;1&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;0% were removed in order of significance.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;Thanks,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: AdvP7C81; line-height: 115%; color: #ff0000; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'AdvP7C81','sans-serif';"&gt;Ashwini&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:55:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ashwini_uci</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-17T02:55:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Removal of terms from the modelsbased on change in effect estimate.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Removal-of-terms-from-the-modelsbased-on-change-in-effect/m-p/101386#M5313</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;My interpretation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fit a model with the dialysis and age, sex, race, renal function.&amp;nbsp; The remaining variables are added all at once.&amp;nbsp; Each one is removed one at a time with the highest p value first, if the dialysis status had not changed by more than 10% from the previous or original model (I'm not sure what the 10% would be in comparison to).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:50:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-17T03:50:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Removal of terms from the modelsbased on change in effect estimate.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Removal-of-terms-from-the-modelsbased-on-change-in-effect/m-p/101387#M5314</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;And mine:&amp;nbsp; They fit the full model.&amp;nbsp; Then they fit reduced models, deleting one predictor at a time.&amp;nbsp; They made a list of the "deleted models" where the predicted value of dialysis status was changed less than 10%, ordered by the significance of the independent variables that happened to be deleted.&amp;nbsp; The model with the least significant deleted independent variable from this list was then selected.&amp;nbsp; Iterate this process until the deletion resuts in a change in dialysis status of 10% or more.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just don't see why they used significance to remove an independent variable.&amp;nbsp; Why not choose the variable that had the least effect on the predicted value (i.e., smallest effect size in some context)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:40:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Removal-of-terms-from-the-modelsbased-on-change-in-effect/m-p/101387#M5314</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-17T18:40:49Z</dc:date>
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