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    <title>topic Re: Linear mixed model or GEE or Linear regression when many clusters have only one respondent? in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/966377#M48553</link>
    <description>Thanks so much for your answer, it was helpful, The reason I used an independent correlation structure is that, if cluster size is informative, GEE models with exchangeable correlation can produce biased estimates. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439089/" target="_blank"&gt;https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439089/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9908044/" target="_blank"&gt;https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9908044/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 01:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bhr-q</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-05-13T01:14:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Linear mixed model or GEE or Linear regression when many clusters have only one respondent?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/965831#M48492</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello All,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I ran a linear mixed model (LMM) with country (55 countries) included as a random intercept. The random intercept for country was statistically significant, and the model fit improved significantly, evidenced by a lower -2 Log Likelihood—compared to the model without country as a random effect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;proc MIXED data=tmp method=ML covtest;
class country;
model dependent_var =var1 var2 ..../s ddfm=kr ;
random intercept /subject=country;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The concern is&amp;nbsp;that &lt;STRONG&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;countries&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;have only&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;one&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;respondent&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;countries have&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;respondents (below is the frequency), I was thinking to say: Even though the model with country as a random intercept looks better fit, but I will go with simple linear regression not mixed model due to sparse data/unstable estimate. Or would it be better to run the GEE model with an &lt;STRONG&gt;independent&lt;/STRONG&gt; correlation structure?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;proc genmod data=tmp;
class country ;
model ave_score =var1 var2 .... / dist=normal link=id type3;
repeated subject=country/ type=ind;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;TABLE width="162"&gt;
&lt;TBODY&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD width="98"&gt;country&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD width="64"&gt;Frequency&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_4&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;24&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_5&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_6&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_7&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_8&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;5&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_9&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;22&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_10&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_11&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_12&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_13&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;20&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_14&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;12&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_15&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_16&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_17&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_18&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_19&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_20&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_21&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_22&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_23&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_24&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_25&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;6&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_26&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_27&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_28&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;4&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_29&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;32&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_30&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;5&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_31&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_32&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;6&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_33&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;15&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_34&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;10&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_35&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_36&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_37&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;18&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_38&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_39&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_40&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_41&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_42&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_43&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;6&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_44&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;8&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_45&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_46&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_47&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_48&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;7&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_49&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;6&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_50&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;18&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_51&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;5&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_52&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_53&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_54&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;9&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;country_55&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;TR&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;total&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD&gt;290&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;/TBODY&gt;
&lt;/TABLE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would appreciate your help in choosing the best approach,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks so much!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 02:03:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/965831#M48492</guid>
      <dc:creator>bhr-q</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-06T02:03:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Linear mixed model or GEE or Linear regression when many clusters have only one respondent?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/965909#M48495</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Both approaches can deal with the structure of your data. The random effects model in MIXED is a subject-specific model best for individual predictions. The GEE model is a marginal or population-averaged model that is best for making population inferences.&amp;nbsp; But as noted by Allison in his book, "Fixed Effects Regression Methods for Longitudinal Data Using SAS"&amp;nbsp; (Allison, P., SAS Institute, 2005), these are effectively equivalent in the case of the linear model like yours, though you might want to use the exchangeable structure (TYPE=EXCH) in the GEE model. Another possible approach is the fixed effects model that Allison's book also discusses and which is implemented by the ABSORB statement in PROC GLM.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that the recommended procedure for fitting the GEE model is now PROC GEE though GENMOD can certainly be used. Also, the GEE model does not use a likelihood-based approach, so model comparisons using the likelihood or measures like AIC are not possible.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 23:02:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/965909#M48495</guid>
      <dc:creator>StatDave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-06T23:02:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Linear mixed model or GEE or Linear regression when many clusters have only one respondent?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/966377#M48553</link>
      <description>Thanks so much for your answer, it was helpful, The reason I used an independent correlation structure is that, if cluster size is informative, GEE models with exchangeable correlation can produce biased estimates. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439089/" target="_blank"&gt;https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37439089/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9908044/" target="_blank"&gt;https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9908044/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 01:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Linear-mixed-model-or-GEE-or-Linear-regression-when-many/m-p/966377#M48553</guid>
      <dc:creator>bhr-q</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-05-13T01:14:56Z</dc:date>
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