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    <title>topic Using analytical derivatives in NLMIXED in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Using-analytical-derivatives-in-NLMIXED/m-p/954718#M47775</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I am fitting a mixed effects shared parameter which involves fitting a nonlinear mixed-effects model for the response variable Y and a piecewise exponential survival model for the time to dropout T for large clinical trials (e.g., &amp;gt;1,000 subjects with up to 11 observations on subjects that complete the trial).&amp;nbsp; One of the issues is whether a missing at random dropout based on the observed response variable Y is predictive of dropout. Hence I wish to include an internal time-dependent covariate (i.e., Yij) in the piecewise exponential hazard function. The problem is that the partial log-likelihood function requires a double summation across subjects which makes the use of numerically derived derivatives infeasible (I ran it for three days and it was still computing so I decided to try using analytical derivatives of computation for which I can). While I have derived the analytical derivative of the partial log-likelihood, I don't know how one specifies that within NLMIXED thereby bypassing the use of numerically derived derivatives. Any help would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ed&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:18:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ed-Vonesh</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-12-28T23:18:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Using analytical derivatives in NLMIXED</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Using-analytical-derivatives-in-NLMIXED/m-p/954718#M47775</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am fitting a mixed effects shared parameter which involves fitting a nonlinear mixed-effects model for the response variable Y and a piecewise exponential survival model for the time to dropout T for large clinical trials (e.g., &amp;gt;1,000 subjects with up to 11 observations on subjects that complete the trial).&amp;nbsp; One of the issues is whether a missing at random dropout based on the observed response variable Y is predictive of dropout. Hence I wish to include an internal time-dependent covariate (i.e., Yij) in the piecewise exponential hazard function. The problem is that the partial log-likelihood function requires a double summation across subjects which makes the use of numerically derived derivatives infeasible (I ran it for three days and it was still computing so I decided to try using analytical derivatives of computation for which I can). While I have derived the analytical derivative of the partial log-likelihood, I don't know how one specifies that within NLMIXED thereby bypassing the use of numerically derived derivatives. Any help would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ed&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:18:54 GMT</pubDate>
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