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    <title>topic What is the value of the stddev option in the PROC POWER coxreg procedure? in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, everyone&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I met a trouble when doing with the power and sample size stuff with PROC POWER coxreg procedure. I am not sure about the values of the option stddev. I compute its value from the study's HR confidence interval via (logHRupper - logHRlower)/(2 x 1.96). I know this is a standard error but I don't know how to derive the standard deviation of it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I also have used Stata to compare my results. Same problem. The values of stddev I configured must have been wrong. How could a 80% power require so much events number?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/95726i8FE98EBACECA1227/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" alt="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 11:31:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>TomHsiung</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-21T11:31:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What is the value of the stddev option in the PROC POWER coxreg procedure?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/What-is-the-value-of-the-stddev-option-in-the-PROC-POWER-coxreg/m-p/925135#M45972</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, everyone&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I met a trouble when doing with the power and sample size stuff with PROC POWER coxreg procedure. I am not sure about the values of the option stddev. I compute its value from the study's HR confidence interval via (logHRupper - logHRlower)/(2 x 1.96). I know this is a standard error but I don't know how to derive the standard deviation of it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I also have used Stata to compare my results. Same problem. The values of stddev I configured must have been wrong. How could a 80% power require so much events number?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/95726i8FE98EBACECA1227/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" alt="Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 7.11.43 PM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 11:31:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TomHsiung</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-21T11:31:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the value of the stddev option in the PROC POWER coxreg procedure?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/What-is-the-value-of-the-stddev-option-in-the-PROC-POWER-coxreg/m-p/925144#M45974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/184847"&gt;@TomHsiung&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The &lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_power_syntax02.htm#statug.power.powcxrgstddev" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;PROC POWER documentation&lt;/A&gt; says&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=" aa-term "&gt;STDDEV=&lt;SPAN class=" aa-argument"&gt;number-list&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=" aa-term "&gt;STD=&lt;SPAN class=" aa-argument"&gt;number-list&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="xisDoc-paraSimpleFirst"&gt;&amp;nbsp; specifies the standard deviation of the predictor of interest.&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So my understanding is: If &lt;EM&gt;x&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; is the predictor of interest and &lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;b&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; its regression coefficient (exp(&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;b&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;) being the hazard ratio specified in the HAZARDRATIO= option of the COXREG statement), you specify the standard deviation&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;s&lt;/FONT&gt; of &lt;EM&gt;x&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;(or a list of reasonably possible values of &lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;s&lt;/FONT&gt;) in the STDDEV= option, &lt;EM&gt;not&lt;/EM&gt; the&amp;nbsp;standard deviation of &lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;b&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The formula in&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_power_details22.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_power_details22.htm&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;implies that increasing &lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;s&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;will increase the power, which seems plausible: With smaller values of&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;s&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;it tends to be less likely to obtain a significant (score) test result about &lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT face="symbol"&gt;b&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;SUB&gt;1&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Similarly, the RSQUARE= option is about an aspect of the joint distribution &lt;EM&gt;of the predictors&lt;/EM&gt; &lt;EM&gt;x&lt;SUB&gt;i&lt;/SUB&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:12:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FreelanceReinh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-21T14:12:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the value of the stddev option in the PROC POWER coxreg procedure?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, Freelance&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think you're right. The default value of stddev is 0.5, which is the standard deviation of a binary 1:1 match grouping variable, i.e., square root of 0.5(1 - 0.5). Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 04:46:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>TomHsiung</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-22T04:46:12Z</dc:date>
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