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    <title>topic Re: Minimal detectable change and test-rest variability in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Minimal-detectable-change-and-test-rest-variability/m-p/897397#M44467</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;It's been awhile since I've done a model like this.&amp;nbsp; You have the first step correct, or at least workable.&amp;nbsp; You need add predictors to your y = model, and it may also be necessary to add random slopes for your "boxes", depending on model fit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 13:40:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>awesome_opossum</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-10-05T13:40:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Minimal detectable change and test-rest variability</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Minimal-detectable-change-and-test-rest-variability/m-p/896042#M44406</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need to establish the minimal detectable change for an outcome to distinguish true change from test-retest variability. The data has 30 eyes of 20 participants with 3 scans on the same day. A grid of 25 squares (boxes) is applied to each of the 3 scans and the outcome is obtained in each box for a total of 30×3×25 = 2250 observations. In the literature, minimal detectable change is defined as&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;MDC95 = sqrt(2)×1.96×SEM&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;where SEM is standard error of measurement and is the same as within subject (residual) standard deviation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am using the following SAS code&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=""&gt;proc mixed data = dat method=REML;
&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;class StudyID Eye box;
&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;model y = / solution ddfm=kr;
&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random intercept / subject=StudyID;
&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random intercept / subject=Eye(StudyID);
&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random intercept / subject=box(Eye StudyID);
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="output.jpg" style="width: 629px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88370i263947C120BD36EA/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="output.jpg" alt="output.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think I have approached this correctly but I would definitely appreciate confirmation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Robert&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:42:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>obrien</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-27T13:42:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Minimal detectable change and test-rest variability</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Minimal-detectable-change-and-test-rest-variability/m-p/897397#M44467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's been awhile since I've done a model like this.&amp;nbsp; You have the first step correct, or at least workable.&amp;nbsp; You need add predictors to your y = model, and it may also be necessary to add random slopes for your "boxes", depending on model fit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 13:40:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Minimal-detectable-change-and-test-rest-variability/m-p/897397#M44467</guid>
      <dc:creator>awesome_opossum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-05T13:40:18Z</dc:date>
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