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    <title>topic Re: LS Means Lines model in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885492#M43848</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I did not know off the top of my head. So did I do? I read the &lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.4/statug/statug_introcom_sect040.htm" target="_self"&gt;documentation&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;It says:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/85923i249F8C87EC8EEAE3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" alt="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Yes, that's kind of small, but if you click on it, it becomes readable.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:54:59 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-07-19T16:54:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>LS Means Lines model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885489#M43847</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am analyzing my data with ProcGlimmix and the LSMeans statement, with the Lines command for letter separation. I am writing about the statistical analysis I am doing, and realized I don't know what model that the Lines command uses to determine separation (Fishers,&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Bonferroni,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Tukey&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;, etc.) I've included the code, although I don't think it's necessary.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Does anyone know what test is used, and what source I can use to cite that? I have been looking all over but haven't been able to find a straight answer. Thank you so much!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;proc glimmix data=Bruise nobound plots=studentpanel;&lt;BR /&gt;class cls Inoc bruise Rep ;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;model wcorr = cls|bruise|inoc /dist=n ddfm=kr;&lt;BR /&gt;random rep;&lt;BR /&gt;lsmeans cls|bruise /pdiff &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;lines&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; cl;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:49:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hende333</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-19T16:49:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: LS Means Lines model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885492#M43848</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I did not know off the top of my head. So did I do? I read the &lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.4/statug/statug_introcom_sect040.htm" target="_self"&gt;documentation&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;It says:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/85923i249F8C87EC8EEAE3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" alt="PaigeMiller_1-1689785645775.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Yes, that's kind of small, but if you click on it, it becomes readable.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:54:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-19T16:54:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: LS Means Lines model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885493#M43849</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks Paige, but I am specifically asking about the Lines letters separation within LS Means. I could not find that in the documentation at all.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:58:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hende333</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-19T16:58:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: LS Means Lines model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885495#M43850</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/446115"&gt;@hende333&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks Paige, but I am specifically asking about the Lines letters separation within LS Means. I could not find that in the documentation at all.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Ok, with that in mind, I call upon the stats wizard&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13684"&gt;@Rick_SAS&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to see if he has additional insight.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-19T17:00:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: LS Means Lines model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/LS-Means-Lines-model/m-p/885510#M43851</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm not great with PROC GLIMMIX. Someone like&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15363"&gt;@SteveDenham&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is probably a better choice.&amp;nbsp;I assume you've read &lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_glimmix_syntax13.htm#statug.glimmix.gmxlsmlines" target="_self"&gt;the doc for the LINES option&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If you do not use the ADJUST= option, you get&amp;nbsp;all pairwise least squares mean differences and their significance. The unadjusted p-values are from a statistic that is assumed to have a t distribution. Since you specified DDFM=KR, &lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_glimmix_details40.htm" target="_self"&gt;the test statistic is the one specified in the doc&lt;/A&gt;.&amp;nbsp;If you have access to Westfall, Tobias, and Wolfinger (2011, 2nd&amp;nbsp; Ed), they discuss the LINES option and p-values on pp 280-281. (If you specify an ADJUST= option, the p-values are adjusted.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I'd like to suggest that the table that the LINES option creates is a poor way to visualize the pairwise significance of the differences. For a discussion, see &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2017/10/16/multiple-comparisons-lines-plot.html" target="_self"&gt;"Graphs for multiple comparisons of means: The lines plot."&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;You can &lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/9.4_3.5/statug/statug_glimmix_details86.htm" target="_self"&gt;use the PLOTS= option on the LSMEANS statement&lt;/A&gt; to request a better visualization. My favorite visualization is &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2017/10/18/diffogram-multiple-comparisons-sas.html" target="_self"&gt;PLOTS=DIFFOGRAM, which creates a faithful representation of the significant differences&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:56:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-07-19T17:56:40Z</dc:date>
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