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    <title>topic Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;proc genmod can fit zero-inflated Poisson distribution.&lt;BR /&gt;also you could try tweedie distribution which also could handle many zeros in Y.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 11:34:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-07T11:34:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879291#M43494</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Greetings-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am trying to estimate the treatment effect for a pre/post design, subjects were measured on healthcare utilization 1yr before and after the intervention (non-random assignment).&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The dependent vars are&amp;nbsp; cost/utilization measures that are right skewed, some zero-inflated.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;To control for the vastly different distribution of covariates, case subjects are matched to controls 1:1.&amp;nbsp; For the dependent variables that are not zero-inflated I am using GEE in GENMOD with either Gamma or Negative Binomial distribution, however, with the zero-inflated dep vars, GEE is not available and am seeking advice on which SAS statistical procS are available that would accommodate the zero-inflated and matched design.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance, Brandon Zagorski&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pre-Post Matched Analysis&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 21:20:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879291#M43494</guid>
      <dc:creator>bzagor1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-05T21:20:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879318#M43499</link>
      <description>You could take "Matched Analysis" as Mixed model(a.k.a repeated measured model).&lt;BR /&gt;Here is something you can refer to:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://support.sas.com/kb/46/997.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://support.sas.com/kb/46/997.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Also you could try PROC GLIMMIX to model Mixed model.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 11:32:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-06T11:32:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879337#M43501</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the response.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately, my dependent var is not dichotomous (its continuous, right skewed, zero inflated) so that reference do not apply.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;And Proc Glimmix does not have zero inflated distributions available.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Brandon&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 13:38:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bzagor1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-06T13:38:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879516#M43512</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;proc genmod can fit zero-inflated Poisson distribution.&lt;BR /&gt;also you could try tweedie distribution which also could handle many zeros in Y.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 11:34:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-07T11:34:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879962#M43532</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/18408"&gt;@Ksharp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; I have a matched cohort and GENMOD does not accommodate this design in the zero-inflated models.&amp;nbsp; Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Brandon&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 20:01:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879962#M43532</guid>
      <dc:creator>bzagor1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-09T20:01:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating treatment effects, 2 Group Pre-Post Matched Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/879997#M43533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Calling &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15363"&gt;@SteveDenham&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13633"&gt;@StatDave&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13758"&gt;@lvm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 08:42:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-10T08:42:16Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/880030#M43536</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See the "Using PROC NLMIXED" sections of &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/kb/44354" target="_self"&gt;this note&lt;/A&gt; which show how you can fit a zero-inflated model using PROC NLMIXED. You could include a RANDOM statement to add a random effect for your matched pairs.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;But the zero-inflated distributions, Poisson or negative binomial, are for a count response. For a continuous response you might consider using a modified gamma or Tweedie distribution, again fit using NLMIXED to which a RANDOM statement could be added. The modified gamma is shown in &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/kb/68202" target="_self"&gt;this note&lt;/A&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:49:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/880030#M43536</guid>
      <dc:creator>StatDave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-10T18:49:50Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;As indicated by StatDave, you need to use NLMIXED. THis is a very powerful procedure, but it requires programming. In addition to the link give, I like the following for very good instruction:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://stats.oarc.ucla.edu/sas/faq/how-do-i-run-a-random-effect-zero-inflated-poisson-model-using-nlmixed/" target="_blank"&gt;https://stats.oarc.ucla.edu/sas/faq/how-do-i-run-a-random-effect-zero-inflated-poisson-model-using-nlmixed/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 19:24:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lvm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-11T19:24:46Z</dc:date>
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      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Estimating-treatment-effects-2-Group-Pre-Post-Matched-Analysis/m-p/880181#M43542</link>
      <description>&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13758"&gt;@lvm&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;BR /&gt;You got it, well done!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:46:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-12T11:46:03Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Great, thanks.&amp;nbsp; I will look into this.&amp;nbsp; Again, thanks for your help!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards, Brandon&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 13:21:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bzagor1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-12T13:21:42Z</dc:date>
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      <description>This credit should give to lvm. He deserve it .&lt;BR /&gt;Plz mark lvm's answer correct ,not mine .</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-13T12:11:33Z</dc:date>
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