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    <title>topic Re: Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820106#M40561</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Your choice of an unstructured covariance matrix (UN) could be problematic if you have many times. The number of parameters to estimate for variances and covariances grows geometrically with time. I recommend you check out the user's guide for examples of other choices for type=.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The second example in the MIXED user's guide is a good place to start, if you haven't already read it. Or read:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1400366?seq=1" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jstor.org/stable/1400366?seq=1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:37:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>lvm</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-06-23T17:37:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/819398#M40517</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello community,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I am doing some analysis for repeated measure data and using a&lt;STRONG&gt; mixed model method&lt;/STRONG&gt; to carry out my analysis to accommodate missing data. Below are my lines of code and i have also attached the sample data&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc mixed data=data;
class trt sub time (ref=first);
model Y = time trt time*trt/ s chisq;
repeated / type=un subject=sub r;
run;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;I understand I needed to carry out model diagnostic before for modelling my data. Can anyone help on how I can perform&amp;nbsp;Normality&amp;nbsp;Assumption for my data with SAS code.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2"&gt;Thanks&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 17:26:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/819398#M40517</guid>
      <dc:creator>twix17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-21T17:26:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/819408#M40518</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;My understanding is different. You test the normality assumption AFTER you fit the model, by seeing if the residuals are normally distributed. There is no need for the response or predictor variables to have a normal distribution.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:08:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/819408#M40518</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-21T18:08:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820105#M40560</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Best approach is to look at the studentized residuals in graphic form. Add PLOTS=studentpanel on the procedure statement. See the user guide about how to interpret. Normality is not overly important (within reason), but constant variability is important.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:29:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820105#M40560</guid>
      <dc:creator>lvm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-23T17:29:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820106#M40561</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Your choice of an unstructured covariance matrix (UN) could be problematic if you have many times. The number of parameters to estimate for variances and covariances grows geometrically with time. I recommend you check out the user's guide for examples of other choices for type=.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The second example in the MIXED user's guide is a good place to start, if you haven't already read it. Or read:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1400366?seq=1" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jstor.org/stable/1400366?seq=1&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 17:37:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820106#M40561</guid>
      <dc:creator>lvm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-23T17:37:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Normality Assumption for Mixed Model Analysis</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820443#M40574</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you. I find this information helpful and implemented the suggestion.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 18:55:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Normality-Assumption-for-Mixed-Model-Analysis/m-p/820443#M40574</guid>
      <dc:creator>twix17</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-26T18:55:42Z</dc:date>
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