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    <title>topic Re: Question about standard reporting for plots of proportions and CIs over time in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Question-about-standard-reporting-for-plots-of-proportions-and/m-p/775600#M37977</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The second plot is sometimes called a "dynamite plot."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://emdbolker.wikidot.com/blog%3Adynamite" target="_blank"&gt;Data visualization experts generally agree that dynamite plots are not the best way to summarize a data distribution.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can read more about alternative visualizations in the article &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2021/09/07/remaking-panel-dynamite-plots.html" target="_self"&gt;"Remaking a panel of dynamite plots."&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I think it is a good idea to add CI's for the observed proportion. Be sure to specify on the graph what the intervals represent because there are &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/10/09/statistic-error-bars-mean.html" target="_self"&gt;several ways to visualize uncertainty in point estimates.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It is not clear to me that a trend line from a predictive model is the right way to get those CIs, but you know your data better than I do.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:48:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-10-21T10:48:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Question about standard reporting for plots of proportions and CIs over time</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Question-about-standard-reporting-for-plots-of-proportions-and/m-p/775519#M37971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Below is a chart of proportions over time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="rmfPS.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/64907i715E61C14070167A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="rmfPS.png" alt="rmfPS.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’d like to add confidence intervals and a trend line through data such as this one. From articles I’ve seen, there seem to be two ways of doing this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. calculate the CIs for the observed proportions&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. run a model, and have the trend lines be predicted probabilities from the model and the 95% confidence intervals would&amp;nbsp; go around the predicted probabilities. An example of this approach is in this article - "Columns indicate observed success rates. Points and error bars indicate model-predicted means and 95% confidence intervals, respectively." from &lt;A href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/232868v2.full" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/232868v2.full&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="F1.large.jpg" style="width: 195px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/64909iD90BEA8E6BA00670/image-size/small?v=v2&amp;amp;px=200" role="button" title="F1.large.jpg" alt="F1.large.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question: in a standard reports where there will be many of these charts shown, is one of these a "better" way? I ran a model because I also wanted to test if the trends were statistically significant, and the model also adjusted for clustering. Is this a good enough reason to take approach #2?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any advice would be much appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mjkop56</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T21:03:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about standard reporting for plots of proportions and CIs over time</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Question-about-standard-reporting-for-plots-of-proportions-and/m-p/775600#M37977</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The second plot is sometimes called a "dynamite plot."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;A href="http://emdbolker.wikidot.com/blog%3Adynamite" target="_blank"&gt;Data visualization experts generally agree that dynamite plots are not the best way to summarize a data distribution.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You can read more about alternative visualizations in the article &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2021/09/07/remaking-panel-dynamite-plots.html" target="_self"&gt;"Remaking a panel of dynamite plots."&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think it is a good idea to add CI's for the observed proportion. Be sure to specify on the graph what the intervals represent because there are &lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2019/10/09/statistic-error-bars-mean.html" target="_self"&gt;several ways to visualize uncertainty in point estimates.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It is not clear to me that a trend line from a predictive model is the right way to get those CIs, but you know your data better than I do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:48:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Question-about-standard-reporting-for-plots-of-proportions-and/m-p/775600#M37977</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T10:48:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about standard reporting for plots of proportions and CIs over time</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Question-about-standard-reporting-for-plots-of-proportions-and/m-p/775785#M37986</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you, Rick! This is very helpful.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:49:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mjkop56</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T22:49:37Z</dc:date>
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