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    <title>topic Re: intial values for parms in proc nlmixed in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/intial-values-for-parms-in-proc-nlmixed/m-p/750154#M36479</link>
    <description>Thank u very very much for your help, really it is a very important methods to chose initial values.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 11:28:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Abbas_Arkawazi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-06-24T11:28:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>intial values for parms in proc nlmixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/intial-values-for-parms-in-proc-nlmixed/m-p/750113#M36476</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello everybody can you help me in the problem in how we can chose the intial values for parms in the proc nlmixed? is there specified method can I chose from it the intial values for the parameters&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;please help me, my distribution and the program is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;proc nlmixed data=WORK.y;&lt;BR /&gt;parms b0=1 b1=2 b2=2=1 a=1 b=1 s=2;&lt;BR /&gt;m =b0+(b1*age)+(b2*creatin)+(b3*gender2);&lt;BR /&gt;y=urea;&lt;BR /&gt;if status_u=1 then f=((a*b)*((1-exp(-exp((y-m)/s)))**(a-1))*((1+((exp(exp((y-m)/s))-1)**(a)))**(-(b+1)))) /(s*exp((-a*exp((y-m)/s))-((y-m)/s))) ;&lt;BR /&gt;else f= (1+(((1-exp(-exp((y-m)/s)))/(exp(-exp((y-m)/s))))**a))**-b ;&lt;BR /&gt;ll=log(f);&lt;BR /&gt;model y ~ general(ll);&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Abbas_Arkawazi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-24T07:54:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: intial values for parms in proc nlmixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/intial-values-for-parms-in-proc-nlmixed/m-p/750133#M36477</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It looks like you have a typo on the PARMS statement?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;parms b0=1 b1=2 &lt;STRONG&gt;b2=2=1&lt;/STRONG&gt; a=1 b=1 s=2;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know of three ways to choose initial parameters:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;The brute force method:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2018/06/25/grid-search-for-parameters-sas.html" target="_self"&gt;Use a grid search to find initial parameter values&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2018/06/27/reduced-choose-parameters-mixed-model.html" target="_self"&gt;Fit a reduced model.&lt;/A&gt; Sometimes your model is a generalization of a simpler model that has fewer parameters. You can estimate the simpler model and use those estimates as initial guesses for the full model.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;&lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2017/11/27/method-of-moments-estimates-mle.html" target="_self"&gt;Use the method of moments&lt;/A&gt; for parameters that are connected to means, standard deviations, etc.&lt;/LI&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:24:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-24T10:24:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: intial values for parms in proc nlmixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/intial-values-for-parms-in-proc-nlmixed/m-p/750154#M36479</link>
      <description>Thank u very very much for your help, really it is a very important methods to chose initial values.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 11:28:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/intial-values-for-parms-in-proc-nlmixed/m-p/750154#M36479</guid>
      <dc:creator>Abbas_Arkawazi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-06-24T11:28:25Z</dc:date>
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