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    <title>topic Re: Standard Deviation from Proc Glimmix in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713895#M34501</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;As&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/60873"&gt;@jiltao&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;said (and you really, really need to listen to what Jill says), the standard error is the proper measure of dispersion for both the parameters of the model and for the covariate adjusted mean (least squares mean).&amp;nbsp; I suspect you are looking for the standard deviation so that you can calculate some sort of scaled effect size.&amp;nbsp; The usual methods (Cohen's d, eta squared, omega squared) aren't appropriate in the mixed model setting.&amp;nbsp; Search this community for other methods, one of which was posted in the last month.&amp;nbsp; It involves looking at the change in the response to a unit change (unit here could be a standard deviation of the raw input) while holding all other factors in the model fixed at their respective means.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:02:45 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-01-25T14:02:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Standard Deviation from Proc Glimmix</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713361#M34476</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm using Proc Glimmix to get the adjusted means cost for my research question. The output gives the standard error estimate but is there a direct was to get the standard deviation from the model? I know I can calculate it based on the standard error but the deviations are looking larger than expected.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;proc glimmix data= final_population;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;class patient_group survival&amp;nbsp; gender (ref="0") daibetes (ref="0")&amp;nbsp;smoking (ref="0") obesity&amp;nbsp; (ref="0") ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;model costs=age gender daibetes smoking obesity propensity_score / dist=binary link=logit solution;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;random intercept / subject=patient_group;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lsmeans &lt;SPAN&gt;patient_group&lt;/SPAN&gt; / pdiff ilink oddsratio cl ;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:34:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mekono</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-22T14:34:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard Deviation from Proc Glimmix</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713372#M34478</link>
      <description>Standard error is the statistic to measure the uncertainty of the parameter estimate. Standard deviation is not relevant here and might not be available from PROC GLIMMIX..</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:09:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jiltao</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-22T15:09:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard Deviation from Proc Glimmix</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713389#M34479</link>
      <description>Thanks for your reply. That makes sense. What would be the best way to get&lt;BR /&gt;the covariate adjusted mean and standard deviation for a model?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:49:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mekono</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-22T15:49:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard Deviation from Proc Glimmix</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713895#M34501</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/60873"&gt;@jiltao&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;said (and you really, really need to listen to what Jill says), the standard error is the proper measure of dispersion for both the parameters of the model and for the covariate adjusted mean (least squares mean).&amp;nbsp; I suspect you are looking for the standard deviation so that you can calculate some sort of scaled effect size.&amp;nbsp; The usual methods (Cohen's d, eta squared, omega squared) aren't appropriate in the mixed model setting.&amp;nbsp; Search this community for other methods, one of which was posted in the last month.&amp;nbsp; It involves looking at the change in the response to a unit change (unit here could be a standard deviation of the raw input) while holding all other factors in the model fixed at their respective means.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2021 14:02:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Standard-Deviation-from-Proc-Glimmix/m-p/713895#M34501</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-25T14:02:45Z</dc:date>
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