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    <title>topic Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709304#M34339</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you, Rick_SAS and&amp;nbsp;FreelanceReinhard.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Emma_at_SAS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-01-04T20:05:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709244#M34331</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;May you please help me understand how UN(1) and UN differ? I looked at the book "SAS for Mixed Models, 2nd Edition, by R. Littell et al. (SAS Press)" but still I do not see the difference.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:32:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Emma_at_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T16:32:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709260#M34332</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/?cdcId=pgmsascdc&amp;amp;cdcVersion=9.4_3.5&amp;amp;docsetId=statug&amp;amp;docsetTarget=statug_mixed_syntax14.htm&amp;amp;locale=en#statug.mixed.mixedcovstruct" target="_self"&gt;Look at the table of covariance structures in the PROC MIXED documentation.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It tells you that UN is an unstructured (t x t) matrix, which (b/c of symmetry) has t(t+1)/ parameters.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In contrast, UN(q) is a banded structure that is zero except for cells (i,j) such that |i-j|&amp;lt;q. When q=1, that means UN(1) is diagonal. It has t parameters.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:14:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T18:14:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709278#M34334</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you, Rick_SAS!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is t the number of times we measured the outcome variable? And for TYPE=UN we have t(t-1) parameters because of symmetry?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:57:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Emma_at_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T18:57:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709291#M34336</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Yes. F&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;or a balanced design, t is the number of times you measure the outcome for each subject.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:21:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T19:21:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709303#M34338</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/84351"&gt;@Emma_at_SAS&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(...) And for TYPE=UN we have t(t-1) parameters because of symmetry?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The number of parameters in this case is &lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" size="4"&gt;t(t&lt;STRONG&gt;+&lt;/STRONG&gt;1)&lt;STRONG&gt;/2&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;, i.e., &lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" size="4"&gt;t&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;variances on the diagonal of the covariance matrix plus &lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" size="4"&gt;t(t&lt;STRONG&gt;-&lt;/STRONG&gt;1)/2&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;covariances below (and, due to symmetry, the same above) the diagonal. (The "&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier" size="4"&gt;2&lt;/FONT&gt;" in the denominator is somehow not displayed in &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13684"&gt;@Rick_SAS&lt;/a&gt;'s reply.)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:01:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FreelanceReinh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T20:01:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC MIXED: The difference between two covariance structures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709304#M34339</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you, Rick_SAS and&amp;nbsp;FreelanceReinhard.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:05:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/PROC-MIXED-The-difference-between-two-covariance-structures/m-p/709304#M34339</guid>
      <dc:creator>Emma_at_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-01-04T20:05:51Z</dc:date>
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