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    <title>topic Re: Covariance structure for a repeated measure data in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariance-structure-for-a-repeated-measure-data/m-p/707485#M34267</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;What sort of error messages, warnings or notes are in the log?&amp;nbsp; What about messages in the output listing?&amp;nbsp; Some of those might help shed some light on what is happening.&amp;nbsp; I find it surprising that UN(1) converges and VC doesn't, so let's see what is happening there first.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:37:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-12-21T14:37:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Covariance structure for a repeated measure data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariance-structure-for-a-repeated-measure-data/m-p/707052#M34259</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have repeated measures data with 3 measurements for which the correlation between repeated measures is shown below. I use PROC MIXED and have /TYPE= in the REPEATED statement.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I tried different covariance structures but only the model with UN(1) converges. I was expecting that AR(1) would converge because I thought that would be a better fit based on the PROC CORR results. I appreciate it if I have your insight on this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(I tried ARH(1), AR(1), UN, VC, CS, UNR, TOEP, CSH, TOEPH)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;proc corr data=wide;&lt;BR /&gt;var M1 M2 M3;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;TD colspan="4" rowspan="1" data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;Pearson Correlation Coefficients\nProb &amp;gt; |r| under H0: Rho=0\nNumber of Observations&amp;quot;}"&gt;Pearson Correlation Coefficients&lt;BR /&gt;Prob &amp;gt; |r| under H0: Rho=0&lt;BR /&gt;Number of Observations&lt;/TD&gt;
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&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M1&amp;quot;}"&gt;M1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M2&amp;quot;}"&gt;M2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M3&amp;quot;}"&gt;M3&lt;/TD&gt;
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&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M1&amp;quot;}"&gt;M1&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;1.00000\n \n42167&amp;quot;}"&gt;1.00000&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;42167&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.85104\n&amp;lt;.0001\n41466&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.85104&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;41466&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.78900\n&amp;lt;.0001\n40845&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.78900&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;40845&lt;/TD&gt;
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&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M2&amp;quot;}"&gt;M2&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.85104\n&amp;lt;.0001\n41466&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.85104&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;41466&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;1.00000\n \n41923&amp;quot;}"&gt;1.00000&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;41923&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.81367\n&amp;lt;.0001\n41028&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.81367&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;41028&lt;/TD&gt;
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&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;M3&amp;quot;}"&gt;M3&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.78900\n&amp;lt;.0001\n40845&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.78900&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;40845&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;0.81367\n&amp;lt;.0001\n41028&amp;quot;}"&gt;0.81367&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;BR /&gt;41028&lt;/TD&gt;
&lt;TD data-sheets-value="{&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;:2,&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;:&amp;quot;1.00000\n \n41446&amp;quot;}"&gt;1.00000&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;41446&lt;/TD&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2020 19:16:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariance-structure-for-a-repeated-measure-data/m-p/707052#M34259</guid>
      <dc:creator>Emma_at_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-18T19:16:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Covariance structure for a repeated measure data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariance-structure-for-a-repeated-measure-data/m-p/707485#M34267</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What sort of error messages, warnings or notes are in the log?&amp;nbsp; What about messages in the output listing?&amp;nbsp; Some of those might help shed some light on what is happening.&amp;nbsp; I find it surprising that UN(1) converges and VC doesn't, so let's see what is happening there first.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 14:37:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariance-structure-for-a-repeated-measure-data/m-p/707485#M34267</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-12-21T14:37:11Z</dc:date>
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