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    <title>topic Re: Mismatch between PROC GLIMMIX output predicted probability and results in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>Moved to Analytical Procedures forum where it should get better visibility</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:16:41 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SASJedi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-11-20T16:16:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mismatch between PROC GLIMMIX output predicted probability and results</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Mismatch-between-PROC-GLIMMIX-output-predicted-probability-and/m-p/700344#M33787</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am running an analysis examining the association between sleep offset, aka rest end (disaggregated into within- and between-person components: restend_PMC and restend_PM, respectively) and odds of breakfast consumption (with adjustment for a covariate) in PROC GLIMMIX. See below the results:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Solutions for Fixed Effects&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Effect&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Estimate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Standard&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;DF&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;t&amp;nbsp;Value&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Pr &amp;gt; |t|&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Error&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Intercept&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1.5619&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.6444&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;578&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2.42&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0157&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PMC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-0.06121&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.03114&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-1.97&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0494&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PM&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-0.0994&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.04668&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;578&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-2.13&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0337&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Covariate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-0.6233&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.1477&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;-4.22&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Odds Ratio Estimates&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PMC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PM&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Covariate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;_restend_PMC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;_restend_PM&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;_Covariate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Estimate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;DF&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;95% Confidence Limits&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;8.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;5.00E-18&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;8.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;5.00E-18&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;0.941&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.885&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;9.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;5.00E-18&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;8.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;5.00E-18&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;0.905&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;578&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.826&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.992&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;8.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0038&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;8.3449&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;5.00E-18&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.536&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.401&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.716&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Type III Tests of Fixed Effects&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Effect&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Num DF&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Den DF&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;F Value&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Pr&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;F&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PMC&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;3.86&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0494&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;restend_PM&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;578&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;4.53&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.0337&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Covariate&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;2658&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;17.81&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The odds ratios for restend_PMC and restend_PM (bolded above) are below 1, meaning that with each unit increase in either variable, the odds of breakfast go down (negative relationship). I've used "output out" within the code to produce predicted probability and standard error of the outcome within the model in order to graph my results. Below is my code:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;Proc glimmix data=Data NOCLPRINT NOITPRINT METHOD= RSPL namelen=40;
CLASS idnum;model breakfast(ref='0')=restend_PMC restend_PM covariate / ODDSRATIO SOLUTION DIST=BINARY ddfm=bw;
output out=Sleep_offset_Break
pred(noblup ilink)= Sleep_offset_Break_Pred_PA
STDERR(noblup ilink)= Sleep_offset_Break_STDERR_PA;
RANDOM Intercept / TYPE=AR(1) Subject=idnum;
Title 'sleep_offset predicting breakfast, adjusted';run;title;run; &lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I graphed rest_end_PMC on the x-axis and the predicted probability of breakfast consumption (output from output out) on the y-axis, with dotted lines indicating the standard error (see image below):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Sleep offset breakfast graph within.png" style="width: 411px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/51847i17E0524AED35D74E/image-dimensions/411x322?v=v2" width="411" height="322" role="button" title="Sleep offset breakfast graph within.png" alt="Sleep offset breakfast graph within.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To my surprise, the line is slightly upward, indicating a positive relationship (really, the line is almost straight). I have not had this issue when graphing other predicted results using the "output out" command in proc glimmix, including graphing the association between rest_end_PM and the predicted probability (the graph indicated a negative relationship as expected). Can anyone help me understand the issue?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;confooseddesi89&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 21:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Mismatch-between-PROC-GLIMMIX-output-predicted-probability-and/m-p/700344#M33787</guid>
      <dc:creator>confooseddesi89</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-19T21:14:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mismatch between PROC GLIMMIX output predicted probability and results</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Mismatch-between-PROC-GLIMMIX-output-predicted-probability-and/m-p/700540#M33788</link>
      <description>Moved to Analytical Procedures forum where it should get better visibility</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:16:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SASJedi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-20T16:16:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mismatch between PROC GLIMMIX output predicted probability and results</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;You don't say how you did the plot.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Nevertheless, you probably want to use the STORE command in PROC GLIMMIX to save the model so that PROC PLM can do the plot for you (using the EFFECTPLOT statement). I'm sure that will produce a more reasonable plot.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:35:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-11-20T16:35:40Z</dc:date>
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