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    <title>topic Re: scale=deviance option in proc genmod for zero-inflated poisson and zero-inflated negative binomi in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I had two ideas, but neither worked. First I thought to use PSCALE and use Pearson scaling rather than deviance scaling.&amp;nbsp; Then I tried calculating the deviance scale by hand, and feeding that in as a fixed scale.&amp;nbsp; Both gave the error you reported.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am left with trying a mixture of two negative binomials or Poisson using PROC FMM.&amp;nbsp; There is an example for handling an overdispersed Poisson as a mixture of two binomial series&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/?cdcId=pgmsascdc&amp;amp;cdcVersion=9.4_3.4&amp;amp;docsetId=statug&amp;amp;docsetTarget=statug_fmm_gettingstarted01.htm&amp;amp;locale=en" target="_self"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps this could be adapted for your use.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:39:07 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-07-31T11:39:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>scale=deviance option in proc genmod for zero-inflated poisson and zero-inflated negative binomial</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/scale-deviance-option-in-proc-genmod-for-zero-inflated-poisson/m-p/673571#M32234</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I get a warning in SAS saying "WARNING: Scaling the covariance is not available for zero-inflated models." when I use the scale=d option in the model statement of proc genmod.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Any idea of how to handle overdispersion if scale option isn't available for these models? Using some other procedures to run a zip or zinb models, perhaps?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ideas welcome - thanks in advance.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:53:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-30T20:53:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: scale=deviance option in proc genmod for zero-inflated poisson and zero-inflated negative binomi</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/scale-deviance-option-in-proc-genmod-for-zero-inflated-poisson/m-p/673675#M32237</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I had two ideas, but neither worked. First I thought to use PSCALE and use Pearson scaling rather than deviance scaling.&amp;nbsp; Then I tried calculating the deviance scale by hand, and feeding that in as a fixed scale.&amp;nbsp; Both gave the error you reported.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am left with trying a mixture of two negative binomials or Poisson using PROC FMM.&amp;nbsp; There is an example for handling an overdispersed Poisson as a mixture of two binomial series&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/?cdcId=pgmsascdc&amp;amp;cdcVersion=9.4_3.4&amp;amp;docsetId=statug&amp;amp;docsetTarget=statug_fmm_gettingstarted01.htm&amp;amp;locale=en" target="_self"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps this could be adapted for your use.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:39:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/scale-deviance-option-in-proc-genmod-for-zero-inflated-poisson/m-p/673675#M32237</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-31T11:39:07Z</dc:date>
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