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    <title>topic Multinomial response variable and random factors in GLIMMIX procedure in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>Hello,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I have a multinomial ordered response variable (0, 1 and 2) corresponding to population trends (negative, no trend, increasing); 2 continuous independient variables (use and distance) and I am controlling by taxonomy, so I have as random variables family adn genera nested into family. My final model code is:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
proc glimmix data=sasuser.Indices_octene ;&lt;BR /&gt;
class trend family genera;&lt;BR /&gt;
	model trend = use distance distance*distance / dist=multinomial solution;&lt;BR /&gt;
	random family genera(family);&lt;BR /&gt;
run;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I would like to know:&lt;BR /&gt;
- Is this a logistic regression with random factors?&lt;BR /&gt;
- Why can't I get the AIC of the model? (I get it if I delete random factors for the model)&lt;BR /&gt;
- How could I know if my model is correct? do I have to look at the residuals, and how could I do it?&lt;BR /&gt;
- Should I wonder about overdispersion? how could I get a measure of that?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Maybe too many questions. Thank you very much.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Grego.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:02:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-13T15:02:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Multinomial response variable and random factors in GLIMMIX procedure</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multinomial-response-variable-and-random-factors-in-GLIMMIX/m-p/64315#M3058</link>
      <description>Hello,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I have a multinomial ordered response variable (0, 1 and 2) corresponding to population trends (negative, no trend, increasing); 2 continuous independient variables (use and distance) and I am controlling by taxonomy, so I have as random variables family adn genera nested into family. My final model code is:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
proc glimmix data=sasuser.Indices_octene ;&lt;BR /&gt;
class trend family genera;&lt;BR /&gt;
	model trend = use distance distance*distance / dist=multinomial solution;&lt;BR /&gt;
	random family genera(family);&lt;BR /&gt;
run;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I would like to know:&lt;BR /&gt;
- Is this a logistic regression with random factors?&lt;BR /&gt;
- Why can't I get the AIC of the model? (I get it if I delete random factors for the model)&lt;BR /&gt;
- How could I know if my model is correct? do I have to look at the residuals, and how could I do it?&lt;BR /&gt;
- Should I wonder about overdispersion? how could I get a measure of that?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Maybe too many questions. Thank you very much.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Grego.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:02:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multinomial-response-variable-and-random-factors-in-GLIMMIX/m-p/64315#M3058</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-13T15:02:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multinomial response variable and random factors in GLIMMIX procedure</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multinomial-response-variable-and-random-factors-in-GLIMMIX/m-p/64316#M3059</link>
      <description>I also found that if I use a normal error distribution, the estimates are almost the same when using multinomial distribution, but with the oposite sign. How should I interpret the sign of the estimates in the model with multinomial error distribution?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:17:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Multinomial-response-variable-and-random-factors-in-GLIMMIX/m-p/64316#M3059</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-13T15:17:53Z</dc:date>
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