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    <title>topic Split plot analysis and BLUP's in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-analysis-and-BLUP-s/m-p/620332#M29892</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am using SAS version 9.4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am analysing freezing tolerance in plants as measured by the percentage of electrolyte leakage (EL) after freezing treatment.&lt;BR /&gt;All the genotypes tested are siblings.&lt;BR /&gt;My experimental design is a split plot design with 5 replications.&lt;BR /&gt;My main factor is freezing treatment or temperature (3 levels) and my subfactor is plant genotype (100 levels).&lt;BR /&gt;In each experiment (or replication) I measured EL on 3 stem sections per genotype and per temperature.&lt;BR /&gt;I consider that stem section is a factor nested within genotype but I think that I still need to specify the residuals 'Block*FactorA*FactorB' in the model since I have multiple data point for each genotype*temperature.&lt;BR /&gt;My ultimate goal here is to compute BLUP's for each genotype and temperature across 5 replications, to be used in genetic mapping.&lt;BR /&gt;I consider temperature as a fixed effect, while I consider both replication and genotype as random effects in a mixed model.&lt;BR /&gt;Indeed, the 100 genotypes represent a sub-sample of the entire bi-parental population.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My response variable (EL) is a percentage, so I chose to indicate a beta distribution with the linked scale Logit using proc glimmix and laplace approach.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please see my script below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;data first;&lt;BR /&gt;input Rep$ Temperature$ Genotype$ Stem_Section$ EL;&lt;BR /&gt;datalines;&lt;BR /&gt;[...]&lt;BR /&gt;proc glimmix data = first method=laplace;&lt;BR /&gt;EL = EL/100;&lt;BR /&gt;class Temperature Genotype Rep Stem_Section;&lt;BR /&gt;model EL= Temperature/ dist = beta link=logit ;&lt;BR /&gt;random Rep Rep*Temperature Genotype Genotype*Temperature Rep*Temperature*Genotype / solution;&lt;BR /&gt;output out=second pred(ilink blup)=pblup ;&lt;BR /&gt;proc print data=second;&lt;BR /&gt;title 'Mixed model analysis with Random Genotype effect computing BLUPs'&lt;BR /&gt;Run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the random statement, 'Rep Rep*Temperature Genotype Genotype*Temperature' specify the G matrice&lt;BR /&gt;while 'Rep*Temperature*Genotype' specifies the residuals associated with the presence of multiple measurements and then the R matrice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With 100 genotypes, SAS never ends processing the data.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have no problems when I run the model with only 5 genotypes and I obtain Subject=1 in the Dimensions table, which makes sense to me since I have specified both the G and R matrices.&lt;BR /&gt;I also obtain blup estimates for Genotype*Temperature*Rep.&lt;BR /&gt;I would then pursue by calculating the mean of Blup's per genotype and temperature across 5 replications to obtain Blups for each genotype and temperature to be used in mapping.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My questions are:&lt;BR /&gt;1) Is my approach for estimating BLUP's correct and did I stated my random effects properly without overspecifying my split plot design?&lt;BR /&gt;2) I already increased my SAS memory, how can I process all 100 genotypes at once to compute BLUP's using SAS?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for any help you could provide.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sincerely,&lt;BR /&gt;Daisy&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>DaisyA</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-01-27T20:39:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Split plot analysis and BLUP's</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-analysis-and-BLUP-s/m-p/620332#M29892</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am using SAS version 9.4&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am analysing freezing tolerance in plants as measured by the percentage of electrolyte leakage (EL) after freezing treatment.&lt;BR /&gt;All the genotypes tested are siblings.&lt;BR /&gt;My experimental design is a split plot design with 5 replications.&lt;BR /&gt;My main factor is freezing treatment or temperature (3 levels) and my subfactor is plant genotype (100 levels).&lt;BR /&gt;In each experiment (or replication) I measured EL on 3 stem sections per genotype and per temperature.&lt;BR /&gt;I consider that stem section is a factor nested within genotype but I think that I still need to specify the residuals 'Block*FactorA*FactorB' in the model since I have multiple data point for each genotype*temperature.&lt;BR /&gt;My ultimate goal here is to compute BLUP's for each genotype and temperature across 5 replications, to be used in genetic mapping.&lt;BR /&gt;I consider temperature as a fixed effect, while I consider both replication and genotype as random effects in a mixed model.&lt;BR /&gt;Indeed, the 100 genotypes represent a sub-sample of the entire bi-parental population.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My response variable (EL) is a percentage, so I chose to indicate a beta distribution with the linked scale Logit using proc glimmix and laplace approach.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please see my script below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;data first;&lt;BR /&gt;input Rep$ Temperature$ Genotype$ Stem_Section$ EL;&lt;BR /&gt;datalines;&lt;BR /&gt;[...]&lt;BR /&gt;proc glimmix data = first method=laplace;&lt;BR /&gt;EL = EL/100;&lt;BR /&gt;class Temperature Genotype Rep Stem_Section;&lt;BR /&gt;model EL= Temperature/ dist = beta link=logit ;&lt;BR /&gt;random Rep Rep*Temperature Genotype Genotype*Temperature Rep*Temperature*Genotype / solution;&lt;BR /&gt;output out=second pred(ilink blup)=pblup ;&lt;BR /&gt;proc print data=second;&lt;BR /&gt;title 'Mixed model analysis with Random Genotype effect computing BLUPs'&lt;BR /&gt;Run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the random statement, 'Rep Rep*Temperature Genotype Genotype*Temperature' specify the G matrice&lt;BR /&gt;while 'Rep*Temperature*Genotype' specifies the residuals associated with the presence of multiple measurements and then the R matrice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;With 100 genotypes, SAS never ends processing the data.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have no problems when I run the model with only 5 genotypes and I obtain Subject=1 in the Dimensions table, which makes sense to me since I have specified both the G and R matrices.&lt;BR /&gt;I also obtain blup estimates for Genotype*Temperature*Rep.&lt;BR /&gt;I would then pursue by calculating the mean of Blup's per genotype and temperature across 5 replications to obtain Blups for each genotype and temperature to be used in mapping.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My questions are:&lt;BR /&gt;1) Is my approach for estimating BLUP's correct and did I stated my random effects properly without overspecifying my split plot design?&lt;BR /&gt;2) I already increased my SAS memory, how can I process all 100 genotypes at once to compute BLUP's using SAS?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for any help you could provide.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sincerely,&lt;BR /&gt;Daisy&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>DaisyA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-01-27T20:39:33Z</dc:date>
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