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    <title>topic How to use known Std for mean using aggregated data in proc mixed in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-use-known-Std-for-mean-using-aggregated-data-in-proc/m-p/587147#M28735</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I have aggregated data for group i including number of observations ,mean, Std, + 1 independent variable. I want to estimate a linear random effect model with group as random effect like mean = independent variable + group. As said before, since I deal with aggregated data mean and Std (and so standard error SE) for mean is known. How can I put in the known Std or equivalently SE for the mean into SAS proc mixed in a simple way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I did in Winbugs but would like to compare the results with SAS proc mixed or any other SAS proc in SAS 9.4 TS 1M6.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any hint very welcome&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thomas&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2019 07:18:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>thowald</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-09-09T07:18:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to use known Std for mean using aggregated data in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-use-known-Std-for-mean-using-aggregated-data-in-proc/m-p/587147#M28735</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have aggregated data for group i including number of observations ,mean, Std, + 1 independent variable. I want to estimate a linear random effect model with group as random effect like mean = independent variable + group. As said before, since I deal with aggregated data mean and Std (and so standard error SE) for mean is known. How can I put in the known Std or equivalently SE for the mean into SAS proc mixed in a simple way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I did in Winbugs but would like to compare the results with SAS proc mixed or any other SAS proc in SAS 9.4 TS 1M6.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any hint very welcome&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thomas&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2019 07:18:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>thowald</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-09T07:18:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to use known Std for mean using aggregated data in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-use-known-Std-for-mean-using-aggregated-data-in-proc/m-p/588440#M28803</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;use proc glm and a random statement with 'inverse' option in the model statement to incorporate SE as weights?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;although anne whitehead says in her book on meta-analysis, section 4.2.4 on weighted LS regression, regarding SAS: "&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle1"&gt;It should be noted that the standard error and test statistics displayed for the intercept parameter are incorrect for the required model, because they assume that var&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle3"&gt;(&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle4"&gt;ε&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle5"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle3"&gt;) &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle0"&gt;= &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle4"&gt;σ&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle1" style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;2&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle3"&gt;/&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle5" style="font-size: 13pt;"&gt;w&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle5"&gt;i&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle1"&gt;, where &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle4"&gt;σ&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle1" style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;2 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class="fontstyle1"&gt;is to be estimated from the data, instead of equal to 1. This will also be the case for other statistical packages.&lt;/SPAN&gt;"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i'm not sure if this is helpful ....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2019 06:16:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pau13rown</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-13T06:16:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to use known Std for mean using aggregated data in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-use-known-Std-for-mean-using-aggregated-data-in-proc/m-p/589988#M28848</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your suggestion. Since the SE depends on SD as well as N, how do I include N i.e. the number of observations each mean is based on into the model?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:33:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>thowald</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-09-19T11:33:35Z</dc:date>
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