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    <title>topic Re: Some Nonlinear Modeling - shaking off some rusty knowledge. in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Wonderful.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So my algebra is the weak link.&amp;nbsp; Thank you.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The last time I had to fit a curve this way was 2004.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:20:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>iiibbb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-01-24T18:20:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Some Nonlinear Modeling - shaking off some rusty knowledge.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529714#M26749</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello--&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have a data set that shows a nonlinear response.&amp;nbsp; I was trying to model it to the generic Y=AB**X algebraic curve.&amp;nbsp; Since I need to reflect and translate it I think the form is&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Y = [AB**(-X+H)] + K&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;/* where: Y is the response */&lt;BR /&gt;/* -X reflects Y=AB**X */&lt;BR /&gt;/* A and B affect the shape the curve */&lt;BR /&gt;/* H translates the curve on the X axis */&lt;BR /&gt;/* K translates the curve on the Y axis */&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;However, when I run PROC NLIN, the procedure doesn't try to optimize a value for H.&amp;nbsp; It just accepts the value I set in the PARM statement.&amp;nbsp; The model it creates fits okay, but I am forced to wonder if I am doing this right since I haven't done my own non-linear model in quite some time.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am not opposed to using another function either, but I am rusty on my algebra.&amp;nbsp; Comments on my choice of function would also be welcome.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am aware of the observation at line 106&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;7.044 28.2205&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;----------code------------&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;data a;&lt;BR /&gt;input X csfc;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;cards;&lt;BR /&gt;19.894 2.1695&lt;BR /&gt;14.357 3.1134&lt;BR /&gt;14.634 2.8468&lt;BR /&gt;16.849 2.8502&lt;BR /&gt;20.73 2.0644&lt;BR /&gt;21.313 1.885&lt;BR /&gt;21.078 2.0202&lt;BR /&gt;22.711 1.828&lt;BR /&gt;18.571 2.2236&lt;BR /&gt;17.324 5.1571&lt;BR /&gt;16.833 2.3027&lt;BR /&gt;7.787 5.2283&lt;BR /&gt;13.571 3.2182&lt;BR /&gt;16.709 2.4278&lt;BR /&gt;103.36 1.9032&lt;BR /&gt;14.626 2.7794&lt;BR /&gt;11.961 4.0494&lt;BR /&gt;16.649 2.4224&lt;BR /&gt;11.9 3.1598&lt;BR /&gt;12.037 3.4&lt;BR /&gt;15.27 2.7087&lt;BR /&gt;15.71 3.1774&lt;BR /&gt;16.64 2.4366&lt;BR /&gt;22.985 1.8892&lt;BR /&gt;13.589 3.0338&lt;BR /&gt;13.231 3.5303&lt;BR /&gt;9.916 2.3978&lt;BR /&gt;16.875 2.6956&lt;BR /&gt;15.502 2.6239&lt;BR /&gt;62.418 1.8696&lt;BR /&gt;67.368 1.9096&lt;BR /&gt;12.707 4.5418&lt;BR /&gt;13.646 3.5238&lt;BR /&gt;12.347 3.7747&lt;BR /&gt;10.492 5.9589&lt;BR /&gt;12.92 5.6311&lt;BR /&gt;15.703 4.804&lt;BR /&gt;15.945 3.7153&lt;BR /&gt;17.812 2.906&lt;BR /&gt;19.456 2.3938&lt;BR /&gt;16.081 2.8086&lt;BR /&gt;15.193 2.8184&lt;BR /&gt;12.06 3.7871&lt;BR /&gt;11.997 3.464&lt;BR /&gt;13.977 3.0224&lt;BR /&gt;17.165 2.3578&lt;BR /&gt;9.955 4.2154&lt;BR /&gt;10.078 3.8764&lt;BR /&gt;11.896 3.5085&lt;BR /&gt;10.837 3.8571&lt;BR /&gt;8.536 4.7339&lt;BR /&gt;8.312 4.9184&lt;BR /&gt;9.301 4.9311&lt;BR /&gt;10.705 3.8221&lt;BR /&gt;9.366 5.0422&lt;BR /&gt;22.31 2.5539&lt;BR /&gt;21.365 2.1591&lt;BR /&gt;21.251 2.1821&lt;BR /&gt;19.524 2.2874&lt;BR /&gt;19.934 2.1676&lt;BR /&gt;13.886 3.8416&lt;BR /&gt;15.718 2.8793&lt;BR /&gt;14.531 3.3531&lt;BR /&gt;14.332 3.3009&lt;BR /&gt;17.202 2.7417&lt;BR /&gt;16.869 2.4636&lt;BR /&gt;14.337 3.108&lt;BR /&gt;16.054 2.7407&lt;BR /&gt;10.45 6.3506&lt;BR /&gt;34.281 1.8753&lt;BR /&gt;40.231 1.6295&lt;BR /&gt;34.453 1.8897&lt;BR /&gt;38.428 1.7759&lt;BR /&gt;40.005 1.6519&lt;BR /&gt;90.734 0.9022&lt;BR /&gt;36.63 1.726&lt;BR /&gt;35.402 1.7388&lt;BR /&gt;76.791 0.8395&lt;BR /&gt;35.249 1.6582&lt;BR /&gt;48.56 1.2963&lt;BR /&gt;39.266 1.6639&lt;BR /&gt;44.37 1.452&lt;BR /&gt;41.683 1.4932&lt;BR /&gt;45.59 1.5308&lt;BR /&gt;74.01 0.8218&lt;BR /&gt;45.272 1.376&lt;BR /&gt;44.352 1.5411&lt;BR /&gt;37.685 1.8526&lt;BR /&gt;42.117 1.7654&lt;BR /&gt;38.659 1.7523&lt;BR /&gt;45.305 1.537&lt;BR /&gt;46.625 1.4801&lt;BR /&gt;45.971 1.435&lt;BR /&gt;42.783 1.4562&lt;BR /&gt;39.755 1.6883&lt;BR /&gt;47.272 1.4124&lt;BR /&gt;43.601 1.5922&lt;BR /&gt;49.839 1.8895&lt;BR /&gt;49.527 1.5169&lt;BR /&gt;46.418 1.5731&lt;BR /&gt;55.454 1.3089&lt;BR /&gt;7.044 28.2205&lt;BR /&gt;48.519 1.5486&lt;BR /&gt;48.658 1.4955&lt;BR /&gt;54.508 1.5457&lt;BR /&gt;46.313 1.7545&lt;BR /&gt;9.346 5.3788&lt;BR /&gt;9.147 5.1461&lt;BR /&gt;10.428 5.0431&lt;BR /&gt;18.505 2.7788&lt;BR /&gt;16.651 3.2919&lt;BR /&gt;22.862 2.5291&lt;BR /&gt;25.334 2.0102&lt;BR /&gt;12.182 4.1494&lt;BR /&gt;10.23 5.3308&lt;BR /&gt;9.134 5.0723&lt;BR /&gt;8.594 5.6128&lt;BR /&gt;10.669 4.3122&lt;BR /&gt;9.316 5.1614&lt;BR /&gt;16.287 3.1224&lt;BR /&gt;12.83 3.883&lt;BR /&gt;63.214 1.586&lt;BR /&gt;58.959 1.3681&lt;BR /&gt;55.911 1.6491&lt;BR /&gt;65.894 1.8837&lt;BR /&gt;56.965 1.3704&lt;BR /&gt;56.958 1.3552&lt;BR /&gt;62.972 1.3213&lt;BR /&gt;78.47 1.2049&lt;BR /&gt;64.248 1.348&lt;BR /&gt;72.855 1.1896&lt;BR /&gt;63.487 1.41&lt;BR /&gt;57.215 1.3024&lt;BR /&gt;56.201 1.4495&lt;BR /&gt;60.765 1.3704&lt;BR /&gt;65.9 1.3719&lt;BR /&gt;62.118 1.3137&lt;BR /&gt;26.976 1.7391&lt;BR /&gt;26.521 1.5494&lt;BR /&gt;29.442 1.6611&lt;BR /&gt;26.807 1.5139&lt;BR /&gt;26.365 1.5992&lt;BR /&gt;30.367 1.5658&lt;BR /&gt;21.368 2.3015&lt;BR /&gt;14.443 3.1963&lt;BR /&gt;19.454 3.3426&lt;BR /&gt;21.448 2.1596&lt;BR /&gt;14.986 5.916&lt;BR /&gt;20.085 2.3998&lt;BR /&gt;27.787 1.7884&lt;BR /&gt;26.624 1.809&lt;BR /&gt;32.641 1.5445&lt;BR /&gt;23.44 2.1039&lt;BR /&gt;65.804 1.8539&lt;BR /&gt;21.747 1.873&lt;BR /&gt;28.834 1.4601&lt;BR /&gt;25.411 1.6552&lt;BR /&gt;21.637 1.9228&lt;BR /&gt;37.783 1.3651&lt;BR /&gt;32.867 1.9354&lt;BR /&gt;34.038 1.0684&lt;BR /&gt;29.043 1.5156&lt;BR /&gt;38.605 1.7499&lt;BR /&gt;42.605 1.4879&lt;BR /&gt;38.399 0.8986&lt;BR /&gt;37.153 1.3436&lt;BR /&gt;18.009 1.5775&lt;BR /&gt;19.849 1.7135&lt;BR /&gt;19.305 1.9004&lt;BR /&gt;20.067 1.6874&lt;BR /&gt;20.61 1.6846&lt;BR /&gt;23.473 1.5383&lt;BR /&gt;16.409 2.246&lt;BR /&gt;32.881 1.0103&lt;BR /&gt;20.855 1.6756&lt;BR /&gt;22.072 1.5011&lt;BR /&gt;22.399 1.5077&lt;BR /&gt;22.422 1.6045&lt;BR /&gt;28.705 1.5148&lt;BR /&gt;21.491 2.0123&lt;BR /&gt;24.138 1.6838&lt;BR /&gt;23.237 1.5113&lt;BR /&gt;18.886 1.7919&lt;BR /&gt;23.216 1.4259&lt;BR /&gt;23.471 1.4605&lt;BR /&gt;23.227 1.5253&lt;BR /&gt;25.337 1.3194&lt;BR /&gt;19.049 1.7622&lt;BR /&gt;19.681 1.8024&lt;BR /&gt;20.113 1.6858&lt;BR /&gt;19.748 1.8308&lt;BR /&gt;26.875 1.2624&lt;BR /&gt;31.016 1.1567&lt;BR /&gt;16.783 2.9245&lt;BR /&gt;21.099 1.6738&lt;BR /&gt;20.545 1.6725&lt;BR /&gt;18.909 2.8377&lt;BR /&gt;32.773 1.1761&lt;BR /&gt;26.978 1.2892&lt;BR /&gt;36.644 1.7227&lt;BR /&gt;23.856 1.4219&lt;BR /&gt;22.931 1.4248&lt;BR /&gt;22.589 1.6277&lt;BR /&gt;13.077 2.6969&lt;BR /&gt;19.172 1.9055&lt;BR /&gt;12.508 2.0986&lt;BR /&gt;24.206 1.4886&lt;BR /&gt;;;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;/* CSFC by X appears to follow a modified version of AB**X */&lt;BR /&gt;/* */&lt;BR /&gt;/* Y = AB**(-X + H) + K */&lt;BR /&gt;/* */&lt;BR /&gt;/* where: Y is the response */&lt;BR /&gt;/* -X reflects Y=AB**X */&lt;BR /&gt;/* A and B affect the shape the curve */&lt;BR /&gt;/* H translates the curve on the X axis */&lt;BR /&gt;/* K translates the curve on the Y axis */&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;proc nlin data=a;&lt;BR /&gt;parameters A = 1 &lt;BR /&gt;B = 1.0125 &lt;BR /&gt;H = 17 &lt;BR /&gt;K = 2;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;model CSFC = A * B**(-X + H) + K;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;* output out=pred p=Yhat l95m=low_conf u95m=up_conf sse=sse;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:37:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529714#M26749</guid>
      <dc:creator>iiibbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-24T15:37:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Some Nonlinear Modeling - shaking off some rusty knowledge.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529786#M26751</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Try this instead:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;proc nlin data=a plots=fitplot;
parameters 
A = 1
B = 0
H = -1
K = 2;
model CSFC = A * (X-B)**H + K;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FitPlot3.png" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26546iD65281E4D620FC43/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="FitPlot3.png" alt="FitPlot3.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:08:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529786#M26751</guid>
      <dc:creator>PGStats</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-24T18:08:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Some Nonlinear Modeling - shaking off some rusty knowledge.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529790#M26752</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wonderful.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So my algebra is the weak link.&amp;nbsp; Thank you.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;The last time I had to fit a curve this way was 2004.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:20:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Some-Nonlinear-Modeling-shaking-off-some-rusty-knowledge/m-p/529790#M26752</guid>
      <dc:creator>iiibbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-24T18:20:09Z</dc:date>
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