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    <title>topic SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524132#M26568</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Perhaps I'm still fuzzy from New Years celebrations, but why is a "treatment*period" term present in Proc GLM code, but now Proc Mixed code?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;TIA for any insights.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:19:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>pdiff</dc:creator>
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      <title>SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524132#M26568</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Perhaps I'm still fuzzy from New Years celebrations, but why is a "treatment*period" term present in Proc GLM code, but now Proc Mixed code?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TIA for any insights.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 17:19:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pdiff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-02T17:19:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524192#M26569</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can we assume that the GLM and MIXED code snippets address the same experimental design? Posting the code would probably be helpful. Meanwhile....&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If there are replicate squares with the same periods for each square, then you can estimate the treatment x period interaction; see&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://msu.edu/~tempelma/E162.pdf" target="_self"&gt;this paper by Rob Tempelman&lt;/A&gt;. But that doesn't explain why one code includes the interaction and the other does not.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Maybe the GLM code incorporates period as fixed, and the MIXED code incorporates period as random?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 00:19:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sld</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-03T00:19:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524219#M26570</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the reply. The example is apparently from a SE SUG meeting paper given here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://analytics.ncsu.edu/sesug/2004/SD04-Yarandi.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://analytics.ncsu.edu/sesug/2004/SD04-Yarandi.pdf&lt;/A&gt; . &amp;nbsp;It seems to me the interaction should not be present.&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 03:28:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>pdiff</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-03T03:28:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524251#M26571</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In the first examples in the paper&amp;nbsp;(PROC GLM), the interaction term is not significant at the alpha=0.05 level. I suspect that is why the interaction term was dropped for the second example (PROC MIXED).&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 13:22:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-03T13:22:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS code  for Latin square design including repeated measures</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524319#M26573</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Because &lt;EM&gt;sequence&lt;/EM&gt; has zero df when the MODEL statement (for both GLIMMIX and the Type III tests in GLM) includes &lt;EM&gt;treatment*period&lt;/EM&gt;, I'm thinking it could be something more fundamental--that &lt;EM&gt;sequence&lt;/EM&gt; and &lt;EM&gt;treatment*period&lt;/EM&gt; are confounded. The zero df result is really obvious in MIXED, less so in GLM because&amp;nbsp;the TEST statement is used to assess &lt;EM&gt;sequence &lt;/EM&gt;in the mixed model&amp;nbsp;and the code in the paper specifies a Type I test for sequence (notably the Type III test does not work).&amp;nbsp;Perhaps this is why the author of the paper changed code between PROCs....&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 17:13:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/SAS-code-for-Latin-square-design-including-repeated-measures/m-p/524319#M26573</guid>
      <dc:creator>sld</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-03T17:13:19Z</dc:date>
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