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    <title>topic Re: error : 'Neither concordance nor ROC analysis is performed with the START/STOP specification' in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/508031#M26070</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/233577"&gt;@km0927&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It seems that there are limitations in PROC PHREG regarding ROC analyses (and hence the &lt;EM&gt;c&lt;/EM&gt; statistic) under certain circumstances, including time-dependent analyses (of some sort): see this thread:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/Concordance-index-for-Competing-risks-PROC-PHREG/td-p/439055" target="_blank"&gt;https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/Concordance-index-for-Competing-risks-PROC-PHREG/td-p/439055&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and perhaps this unanswered question: &lt;A href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/How-to-create-ROC-curves-using-PROC-PHREG/td-p/401809" target="_blank"&gt;https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/How-to-create-ROC-curves-using-PROC-PHREG/td-p/401809&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:27:50 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>FreelanceReinh</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-10-27T21:27:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>error : 'Neither concordance nor ROC analysis is performed with the START/STOP specification'</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/507994#M26069</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi. i'm using 'proc phreg' to perform time-dependent survival analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to get harrell's c index, using 'concordance' option. like this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;proc phreg data=test concordance plots=roc;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class variable1(ref='1')&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;variable2(ref='1')&amp;nbsp;variable3(ref='1')&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model (start, stop)*censored(0) =&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;variable1&amp;nbsp;variable2&amp;nbsp;variable3/TIES=&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;EFRON RL;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;RUN;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;'Neither concordance nor ROC analysis is performed with the START/STOP specification' appears in log screen.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Results of survival analysis came out normally, but '&lt;SPAN&gt;harrell's c index' didn't came out.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 15:08:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>km0927</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-27T15:08:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: error : 'Neither concordance nor ROC analysis is performed with the START/STOP specification'</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/508031#M26070</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/233577"&gt;@km0927&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It seems that there are limitations in PROC PHREG regarding ROC analyses (and hence the &lt;EM&gt;c&lt;/EM&gt; statistic) under certain circumstances, including time-dependent analyses (of some sort): see this thread:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/Concordance-index-for-Competing-risks-PROC-PHREG/td-p/439055" target="_blank"&gt;https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/Concordance-index-for-Competing-risks-PROC-PHREG/td-p/439055&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and perhaps this unanswered question: &lt;A href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/How-to-create-ROC-curves-using-PROC-PHREG/td-p/401809" target="_blank"&gt;https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Statistical-Procedures/How-to-create-ROC-curves-using-PROC-PHREG/td-p/401809&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:27:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/508031#M26070</guid>
      <dc:creator>FreelanceReinh</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-27T21:27:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: error : 'Neither concordance nor ROC analysis is performed with the START/STOP specification'</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/508553#M26085</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;thanks. maybe SAS doesn't support 'Harrell's c index concordance option' in time-dependent survival analysis....&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2018 00:51:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/error-Neither-concordance-nor-ROC-analysis-is-performed-with-the/m-p/508553#M26085</guid>
      <dc:creator>km0927</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-30T00:51:00Z</dc:date>
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