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    <title>topic Re: Split plot design with more than two factors in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498797#M25753</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the quick reply and for the example. Is the statement 'do block=1,2;' for the two replicates; Did I understand this correctly? I will run this example and try to see if I understand how it is structured. At the moment I dont fully understand the reason for the two PROC MIXED models. Forgive me, I am not all that experienced in SAS (yet)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>shaz71</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-09-25T18:23:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498775#M25751</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, this is my first post on SAS. I have a split plot design in 5 factors. Factors A, B, and C have 3 levels and are hard to change factors applied to the main plots. Each main plot contains one combination of A,B,C (so 27 main plots in the 3^3 main plot factorial). The sub plot receives a 3^2 factorial in easy to change factors (D, E). Every example I find only discusses how to write the SAS program for Factors A and B. I replicate the entire design twice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cant find anything on how to adjust the below SAS code to handle 3 factors in the main plot and two factors in the subplots.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Simple Split plot in 2 factors:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE class="sascode"&gt;proc mixed;
   class A B Block;
   model Y = A B A*B;
   random Block A*Block;
run;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Can someone help or point me in the right direction? much appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:38:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498775#M25751</guid>
      <dc:creator>shaz71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T16:38:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498789#M25752</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If I understand your design you can think of it this way.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;data split;  
   do block=1,2;
      whole=0;
      do a=1 to 3;
         do b=1 to 3;
            do c=1 to 3;
               whole+1; 
               sub=0;
               do d=1 to 3;
                  do e=1 to 3;
                     sub+1;
                     y = rannor(13456);
                     output;
                     end;
                  end;
               end;
            end;
         end;
      end;
   run;
proc print;
   run;

proc mixed data=split method=type1;
   class block whole sub;
   model y = whole sub whole*sub;
   random block whole*block;
   run;
proc mixed data=split method=type1;
   class block a b c d e;
   model y = a|b|c|d|e;
   random block a*b*c*block;
   run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:13:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498789#M25752</guid>
      <dc:creator>data_null__</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T18:13:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498797#M25753</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the quick reply and for the example. Is the statement 'do block=1,2;' for the two replicates; Did I understand this correctly? I will run this example and try to see if I understand how it is structured. At the moment I dont fully understand the reason for the two PROC MIXED models. Forgive me, I am not all that experienced in SAS (yet)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498797#M25753</guid>
      <dc:creator>shaz71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T18:23:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498805#M25754</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This first one is the analysis in terms of a single treatment whole plot and subplot.&amp;nbsp; 27 whole plots treatments &amp;nbsp;and 9 subplots.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is a check for the second MIXED where we partition the&amp;nbsp;whole plots (df=26)&amp;nbsp;into the factorial effects a|b|c.&amp;nbsp; Same for SUB df=8&amp;nbsp;and SUB*WHOLE df=208 are partitioned into all the many effects of a|b|c|d|e that remain.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture.PNG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23517iA3B7AE49047C001A/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Capture.PNG" alt="Capture.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:35:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498805#M25754</guid>
      <dc:creator>data_null__</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T18:35:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498818#M25755</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Output from second PROC MIXED.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture.PNG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23518i3E4520005ECC00D0/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Capture.PNG" alt="Capture.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Capture2.PNG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23519i9D2847BE7751E88A/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Capture2.PNG" alt="Capture2.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:54:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498818#M25755</guid>
      <dc:creator>data_null__</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T18:54:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498821#M25756</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much. That makes it really clear. I can see that the SS are in agreement. This makes perfect sense to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:02:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498821#M25756</guid>
      <dc:creator>shaz71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T19:02:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498846#M25758</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Regarding your question about block=1,2 I assumed that when you said 2 replicates that you meant the experiment was in Randomized Complete Blocks.&amp;nbsp; If not then I don't believe the model with Random BLOCK and BLOCK*Whole Plot is correct.&amp;nbsp; Do you have a plot plan or other schematic drawing of the experiment.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:56:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/498846#M25758</guid>
      <dc:creator>data_null__</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-25T19:56:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/499140#M25762</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Data_null__, here is a study diagram of the experiment. the replication happens at the sub-plot level. It is different than replicating the entire experiment. The study diagram only shows 3 main-plot treatment combinations out of 27.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="split-plot_sg.JPG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23576i50D77F73BDB3BD30/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="split-plot_sg.JPG" alt="split-plot_sg.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:30:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/499140#M25762</guid>
      <dc:creator>shaz71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-26T15:30:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Split plot design with more than two factors</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/499180#M25764</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/19257"&gt;@shaz71&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi Data_null__, here is a study diagram of the experiment. the replication happens at the sub-plot level. It is different than replicating the entire experiment. The study diagram only shows 3 main-plot treatment combinations out of 27.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="split-plot_sg.JPG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/23576i50D77F73BDB3BD30/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="split-plot_sg.JPG" alt="split-plot_sg.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Looks like there are no complete blocks.&amp;nbsp; Looks like subplots are blocked (REP 1/2) within whole plots.&amp;nbsp; I don't think the model with BLOCKS is correct for this design.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 16:46:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Split-plot-design-with-more-than-two-factors/m-p/499180#M25764</guid>
      <dc:creator>data_null__</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-26T16:46:55Z</dc:date>
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