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    <title>topic Proc MIXED random intercept model sp(pow) in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-MIXED-random-intercept-model-sp-pow/m-p/494435#M25638</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to fit a random intercept mixed model with a sp(pow) covariance structure (time is continuous) to quality of life data. When I try to run the code below SAS gives me the following error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"Warning: Stopped because of too many likelihood evaluations."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;proc mixed data=data cl;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class person_id treatment_group;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model QOL = QOL_baseline treatment_group time treatment_group*time&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/ solution cl htype=1;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;repeated / type=sp(pow)(time) subject=person_id r rcorr;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / subject=person_id;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone help?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:05:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>____1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-09-11T11:05:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Proc MIXED random intercept model sp(pow)</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-MIXED-random-intercept-model-sp-pow/m-p/494435#M25638</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to fit a random intercept mixed model with a sp(pow) covariance structure (time is continuous) to quality of life data. When I try to run the code below SAS gives me the following error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"Warning: Stopped because of too many likelihood evaluations."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;proc mixed data=data cl;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class person_id treatment_group;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model QOL = QOL_baseline treatment_group time treatment_group*time&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/ solution cl htype=1;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;repeated / type=sp(pow)(time) subject=person_id r rcorr;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / subject=person_id;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone help?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:05:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-MIXED-random-intercept-model-sp-pow/m-p/494435#M25638</guid>
      <dc:creator>____1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-11T11:05:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Proc MIXED random intercept model sp(pow)</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-MIXED-random-intercept-model-sp-pow/m-p/494599#M25646</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As noted in&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings12/332-2012.pdf" target="_self"&gt;Tips and Strategies for Mixed Modeling with SAS/STAT® Procedures&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;by Kiernan et al., this warning could be due to an overspecified model. Try omitting&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;random intercept / subject=person_id;
&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10861779" target="_self"&gt;This paper by Littell et al.&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;describes the difference between an AR(1)+RE structure and an AR(1) structure.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The Kiernan et al. paper lists other potential solutions to this problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'd also add the &amp;lt;repeated-effect&amp;gt; to the REPEATED statement; it may not be necessary for your data but it's a programming safeguard. See&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://documentation.sas.com/?docsetId=statug&amp;amp;docsetTarget=statug_mixed_syntax14.htm&amp;amp;docsetVersion=14.3&amp;amp;locale=en#statug.mixed.repeatedstmt_type" target="_self"&gt;the documentation&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:34:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sld</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-11T18:34:37Z</dc:date>
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