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    <title>topic Re: Proc genmod warning  relative Hessian convergence criterion in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/487971#M25328</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Google "Hessian convergence is questionable"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lots of discussion on this topic, including&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/comp.soft-sys.sas/uXDWNF_oL6U" target="_blank"&gt;https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/comp.soft-sys.sas/uXDWNF_oL6U&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Which says "&lt;SPAN&gt;The implication is that PROC GENMOD has reached a local maximum&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;in this function rather than a global maximum."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2018 00:23:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-08-18T00:23:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Proc genmod warning  relative Hessian convergence criterion</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/487955#M25327</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;　I got a warning when I ran the following code. I have tried to use aggregate option, but it is not working. appreciate it for any inputs/suggestion on&amp;nbsp;the reason and solutions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;PROC&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;GENMOD&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;data&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;=data &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;descending&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;Class&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt; trt classvars;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;MODEL&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt; avalc = trt classvars contvars/&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;dist&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;=binomial &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;link&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;=Identity &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;alpha&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;=&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;0.10&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;Estimate&lt;/FONT&gt; '&lt;FONT color="#800080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;xx'&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;trt &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;1&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt; -&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;1&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;/&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;alpha&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;=&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color="#008080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;0.05&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#000080" face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New" size="2"&gt;;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;WARNING: The relative Hessian convergence criterion of 0.0027102422 is greater than the limit of 0.0001. The&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;convergence is questionable.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;WARNING: The procedure is continuing but the validity of the model fit is questionable.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/LI-WRAPPER&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 21:34:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/487955#M25327</guid>
      <dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-17T21:34:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Proc genmod warning  relative Hessian convergence criterion</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/487971#M25328</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Google "Hessian convergence is questionable"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lots of discussion on this topic, including&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/comp.soft-sys.sas/uXDWNF_oL6U" target="_blank"&gt;https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/comp.soft-sys.sas/uXDWNF_oL6U&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Which says "&lt;SPAN&gt;The implication is that PROC GENMOD has reached a local maximum&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;in this function rather than a global maximum."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2018 00:23:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/487971#M25328</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-18T00:23:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Proc genmod warning  relative Hessian convergence criterion</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/488078#M25344</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you! I have gone through the discussion, but it does seems to provide any solutions. They tried many solutions, but none of them can fixe the issue.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My goal is to get risk difference and CI&amp;nbsp;between the treatment group from Estimate statement (link=identify). I tried link = logit, the warning disappeared, but need to convert OR to RD and get the confidence interval. Does anyone have a reference for calculating RD and CI from OR?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 21:26:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/488078#M25344</guid>
      <dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-19T21:26:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Proc genmod warning  relative Hessian convergence criterion</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/490129#M25450</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;See &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/kb/37228.html" target="_self"&gt;this note&lt;/A&gt; which describes using the NLMeans macro to estimate the risk difference. The identity link does not assure that the predicted values from the model are valid probabilities, so errors like this are common when not using the canonical link (logit).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2018 15:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Proc-genmod-warning-relative-Hessian-convergence-criterion/m-p/490129#M25450</guid>
      <dc:creator>StatDave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-27T15:39:34Z</dc:date>
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