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Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

Melk — Thu, 05 Jul 2018 19:01:20 GMT

I am reading mixed things about whether it is appropriate to use a stepwise selection for a prediction ordered logistic regression model. Does anyone have any input on this they would be willing to share?

Re: Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

sld — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 05:08:15 GMT

The statistical literature is not mixed regarding the appropriateness of stepwise methods: the consensus (over literally decades of study) is, Don't use them. You can review the literature for reasons; the primary disadvantage is inflated Type I error, but there are other disadvantages as well.

My sense is that practitioners (in other words, non-statisticians) promote stepwise because it is SO EASY, you hardly have to give any thought to it at all. But easy is not the same thing as good or appropriate.

Re: Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

PaigeMiller — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:05:04 GMT

@sld wrote:

My sense is that practitioners (in other words, non-statisticians) promote stepwise because it is SO EASY, you hardly have to give any thought to it at all. But easy is not the same thing as good or appropriate.

In fact, if you take a class from SAS Institute about logistic regression, you hear this. The specific instructor that I heard made a point to mention that stepwise has all these drawbacks, but I was left with the impression that the instructor was advising the class to go ahead and use it anyway.

I believe a better solution is Logistic Partial Least Squares regression. Partial Least Squares is usually much more effective in the case of collinearity, and is available in SAS for continuous responses, but there is no logistic version available in SAS. You could probably program your own version of Logistic PLS using this paper: https://cedric.cnam.fr/fichiers/RC906.pdf

Re: Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

StatDave — Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:10:30 GMT

Better, more modern selection methods include LASSO, least angle regression (LAR), and elastic net. These methods are available in various SAS procedures as mentioned in this list of frequently asked-for statistics. For logistic models, the LASSO method is available in PROC HPGENSELECT. For more information see this note and the link there to an article by Gunes.

Re: Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

Melk — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:16:25 GMT

Is LASSO appropriate for only really large datasets?

Re: Stepwise selection for ordered logistic regression

StatDave — Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:21:53 GMT

No, as shown in the note I referred to, it just adds a penalty to the log likelihood to be maximized.