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    <title>topic Re: Calculating power for 4-way mixed factorial design in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Calculating-power-for-4-way-mixed-factorial-design/m-p/465285#M24209</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;For a model of this complexity, basically your options are simulation or a clever use of PARMS / HOLD that Walt Stroup has written about:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings16/11663-2016.pdf" target="_self"&gt;PROC GLIMMIX as a Teaching and Planning Tool for Experiment Design&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ch 16 in&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.crcpress.com/Generalized-Linear-Mixed-Models-Modern-Concepts-Methods-and-Applications/Stroup/p/book/9781439815120" target="_self"&gt;Generalized Linear Mixed Models: Modern Concepts, Methods and Applications&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Even with this tool,&amp;nbsp;you may still be a bit lost because of the challenge of specifying one (or many) alternative hypotheses in a four-way factorial treatment design. I would be, anyway.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Good luck!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2018 20:53:19 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>sld</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-05-26T20:53:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Calculating power for 4-way mixed factorial design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Calculating-power-for-4-way-mixed-factorial-design/m-p/464861#M24191</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am trying to find a way to calculate the power and sample size necessary for a 2x2x2x4 mixed factorial design as well as calculate the power necessary for a moderator analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have one between factor with two levels and three within factors (2 levels, 2 levels, 4 levels respectively).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://meeting.spsp.org/2016/sites/default/files/Lane%2C%20Hennes%2C%20West%20SPSP%20Power%20Workshop%202016.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://meeting.spsp.org/2016/sites/default/files/Lane%2C%20Hennes%2C%20West%20SPSP%20Power%20Workshop%202016.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The above resource has been the best one I have found, but I am feeling a big lost. The PASS program doesn't appear to have the ability to handle more than two within factors for a repeated measures mixed model and Gpower doesn't have a mixed model component that allows a user to indicate more than one within factor.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a resource or guidance anyone can provide on the best way to calculate the necessary sample size?&amp;nbsp; Most of the resources I've in programs such as R are limited to the number of within factors you can have in the simulation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 18:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hyunjeehale</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-24T18:21:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Calculating power for 4-way mixed factorial design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Calculating-power-for-4-way-mixed-factorial-design/m-p/465285#M24209</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;For a model of this complexity, basically your options are simulation or a clever use of PARMS / HOLD that Walt Stroup has written about:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings16/11663-2016.pdf" target="_self"&gt;PROC GLIMMIX as a Teaching and Planning Tool for Experiment Design&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ch 16 in&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.crcpress.com/Generalized-Linear-Mixed-Models-Modern-Concepts-Methods-and-Applications/Stroup/p/book/9781439815120" target="_self"&gt;Generalized Linear Mixed Models: Modern Concepts, Methods and Applications&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Even with this tool,&amp;nbsp;you may still be a bit lost because of the challenge of specifying one (or many) alternative hypotheses in a four-way factorial treatment design. I would be, anyway.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Good luck!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2018 20:53:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Calculating-power-for-4-way-mixed-factorial-design/m-p/465285#M24209</guid>
      <dc:creator>sld</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-26T20:53:19Z</dc:date>
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