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    <title>topic Re: random syntax in proc mixed in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;The two statements&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random subject(sequence);&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random int / subject=subject(sequence);&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;are equivalent in terms of the model they fit.&amp;nbsp; You will get the same results with either syntax, modelling a common covariance to all the observations from the same level of SUBJECT(SEQUENCE).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The second RANDOM statement is more efficient, however.&amp;nbsp; That statement allows you to process your data by subjects, rather than processing the entire V matrix for the data all at once.&amp;nbsp; If you check the DIMENSIONS table near the top of the PROC MIXED output, you will see an entry for number of subjects.&amp;nbsp; For the first RANDOM statement above, you will see a 1 for the number of subjects since the SUBJECT= option was not used.&amp;nbsp; That 1 indicates that MIXED is processing the entire V matrix at once.&amp;nbsp; The entry for the number of subjects in the DIMENSIONS table for the second RANDOM statement will be equal to the number of unique values of SUBJECT(SEQUENCE) in your data.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Processing the data by subjects will save you memory and will save you execution time.&amp;nbsp; With a small data set, the savings may be minimal.&amp;nbsp; It may take a larger data set and model to see measurable savings.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:11:38 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>StatsMan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-01-03T17:11:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>random syntax in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/random-syntax-in-proc-mixed/m-p/422935#M22263</link>
      <description>I use SAS Studio. I'm confused about the random statement in proc mixed code. There is a subject option in random statement as following: SUBJECT=effect SUB=effect identifies the subjects in your mixed model. Complete independence is assumed across subjects; thus, for the RANDOM statement, the SUBJECT= option produces a block-diagonal structure in with identical blocks. The matrix is modified to accommodate this block diagonality. In fact, specifying a subject effect is equivalent to nesting all other effects in the RANDOM statement within the subject effect. Continuous variables are permitted as arguments to the SUBJECT= option. PROC MIXED does not sort by the values of the continuous variable; rather, it considers the data to be from a new subject or group whenever the value of the continuous variable changes from the previous observation. Using a continuous variable decreases execution time for models with a large number of subjects or groups and also prevents the production of a large "Class Level Information" table. When you specify the SUBJECT= option and a classification random effect, computations are usually much quicker if the levels of the random effect are duplicated within each level of the SUBJECT= effect. Here is a example code. proc mixed data= test; by param; class trt subjid; model y=trt /ddfm=kr; random subjid(sequence)/subject=subjid(sequence); run; Suggest that our dataset's name is test and there are four sequences. Each sequence contains five subjects. There are 20 subjects in total. Now we want to set a mixed model with treatments as fixed effects and subjects within sequence as random effects. What is the difference between these two statements? 1. random subjid(sequence) 2.random subjid(sequence)/subject=subjid(sequence) Someone told me that the second statement will let SAS run faster but why? Any help would be appreciated.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2017 03:24:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>master_jiang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-12-21T03:24:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: random syntax in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/random-syntax-in-proc-mixed/m-p/424620#M22324</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The two statements&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random subject(sequence);&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;random int / subject=subject(sequence);&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;are equivalent in terms of the model they fit.&amp;nbsp; You will get the same results with either syntax, modelling a common covariance to all the observations from the same level of SUBJECT(SEQUENCE).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The second RANDOM statement is more efficient, however.&amp;nbsp; That statement allows you to process your data by subjects, rather than processing the entire V matrix for the data all at once.&amp;nbsp; If you check the DIMENSIONS table near the top of the PROC MIXED output, you will see an entry for number of subjects.&amp;nbsp; For the first RANDOM statement above, you will see a 1 for the number of subjects since the SUBJECT= option was not used.&amp;nbsp; That 1 indicates that MIXED is processing the entire V matrix at once.&amp;nbsp; The entry for the number of subjects in the DIMENSIONS table for the second RANDOM statement will be equal to the number of unique values of SUBJECT(SEQUENCE) in your data.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Processing the data by subjects will save you memory and will save you execution time.&amp;nbsp; With a small data set, the savings may be minimal.&amp;nbsp; It may take a larger data set and model to see measurable savings.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:11:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/random-syntax-in-proc-mixed/m-p/424620#M22324</guid>
      <dc:creator>StatsMan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-01-03T17:11:38Z</dc:date>
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