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    <title>topic Re: Covariate for initial weight in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariate-for-initial-weight/m-p/402587#M20982</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;What analysis did you perform to estimate the "tendency for initial weight" between treatments?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 03:51:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PGStats</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-10-10T03:51:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Covariate for initial weight</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariate-for-initial-weight/m-p/402521#M20980</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am needing some help to determine if a covariate is needed in some of my data.&amp;nbsp; Also need help with correct phrasing of experimental design and analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The project evaluated two products that were injected into cattle and they grazed pasture all summer.&amp;nbsp; Cattle were stratified to one of 8 pastures in which both treatments (products) were found equally within each pasture.&amp;nbsp; Individual animal weights were recorded at initiation of grazing, mid-point, and final.&amp;nbsp; There were 280 animals in the study with 1/2 receiving product A and 1/2 receiving product B.&amp;nbsp; The 280 head were split into 8 pastures that ranged in number from 24-40 head, once again with equal number of each product injected in animals per pasture.&amp;nbsp; When using Proc Mixed and evaluating initial weight by treatment there was a tendency P=0.09 for initial weight to be different within treatment groups.&amp;nbsp; At this level do I need to include initial weight as a covariate in the model?&amp;nbsp; I am evaluating total gain (final minus initial for each animal), mid-weight gain (mid-point weight minus initial for each animal), and average daily gain for each (final and mid).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am assuming this is a randomized complete design with pasture as experimental unit and animal as subsample.&amp;nbsp; Product is fixed, animal and pasture are random effects.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The model utilized was&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;proc mixed data=cattle;&lt;BR /&gt;class past id ;&lt;BR /&gt;model total_gain = product/ ddfm=kr;&lt;BR /&gt;random past id past*id;&lt;BR /&gt;lsmeans&amp;nbsp;product ;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;past=pasture&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;id=individual animal identification (new line for each animal in dataset)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lines include (with&amp;nbsp;8 animals as example):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Id Past product in_weight weight_45d out_weight ADG_45 ADG_4592 ADG_total gain_45 total_gain gain_2half;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1 1 A 520 620 740 4.44 2.67 2.5 100 220 120&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2 1 B 540 610 795 1.71 4.11 2.90 70 255 185&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3 1 B 570 715 855 3.54 3.11 3.24 145 285 140&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4 1 A 585 754 870 3.90 2.77 3.24 160 285 125&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1 2 B 565 680 750 2.80 1.56 2.10 115 185 70&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2&amp;nbsp;2 A 615 770 875 3.78 2.33 2.95 155 260 105&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3 2 A 610 735 890 3.05 3.44 3.18 125 280 155&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4 2 B 440 560 670 2.93 2.44 2.61 120 230 110&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:29:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jkj4</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-09T21:29:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Covariate for initial weight</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariate-for-initial-weight/m-p/402587#M20982</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What analysis did you perform to estimate the "tendency for initial weight" between treatments?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 03:51:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Covariate-for-initial-weight/m-p/402587#M20982</guid>
      <dc:creator>PGStats</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-10T03:51:35Z</dc:date>
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