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    <title>topic Re: &amp;quot;Holm-Tukey&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;Tukey-Kramer&amp;quot; on GLIMMIX output in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389335#M20290</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;1. What's your version of SAS STAT (proc setinit;run;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. What version of the documentation are you referring to?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-08-19T17:37:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>"Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389332#M20289</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Greetings:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am doing multiple comparisons of least squares means in proc glimmix, with adjust=tukey, in SAS 9.4.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The documentation under 'LSMEANS Statement' for PROC GLIMMIX states the following:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"When you specify ADJUST=TUKEY and your data are unbalanced, PROC GLIMMIX uses the approximation described in Kramer (1956) and identifies the adjustment as "Tukey-Kramer" in the results."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the output, however, the adjustment is labeled as "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can not find any reference for a Holm-Tukey test, and do not understand why it is labeled as such.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need to report in a paper with a reference what test I used for the multiple comparison, and now I am not sure what it should be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have any helpful information about this discrepancy? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The data are proportion cover of plants in plots, analyzed as repeated measures of a factorial design with fixed and random effects. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are the first few lines of data (there are six forests, with 32 to 40 plots per forest, so it is unbalanced).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;data cover;&lt;BR /&gt;input forest $ plot $ fencing $ miviadd $ year cover;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;LBAL b1 fence addmivi 2012 0.11&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b2 fence nomivi 2012 0.18&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b3 nofence addmivi 2012 0.13&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b4 nofence nomiv 2012 0.10&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b1 fence addmivi 2015 0.13&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b2 fence nomivi 2015 0.22&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b3 nofence addmivi 2015 0.11&lt;BR /&gt;LBAL b4 nofence nomiv 2015 0.09&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here is the code for the LSMEANS step:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;lsmeans forest*fencing*year / slicediff=(forest*year) CL ilink adjust=tukey plot=meanplot;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here is the top of the output for this section:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Snip.JPG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/14559iF2B67232E845239A/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Snip.JPG" alt="Snip.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:58:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389332#M20289</guid>
      <dc:creator>jmorrison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T16:58:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389335#M20290</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;1. What's your version of SAS STAT (proc setinit;run;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. What version of the documentation are you referring to?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:37:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389335#M20290</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T17:37:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389339#M20291</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is SAS 9.4...is there a different version within that for SAS/STAT?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The User Guide is SAS/STAT 12.3.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Janet&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:53:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389339#M20291</guid>
      <dc:creator>jmorrison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T18:53:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389351#M20292</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, what does the proc setinit show for the SAS STAT.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's likely 14.2 or 14.1. Check if the newer docs are the same.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:33:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389351#M20292</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T21:33:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389357#M20294</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;proc setinit just showed the expiration dates fot the components, but the sas support page for it said to use proc product_status to see the verison numners of each component. When I did that it said:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For SAS/STAT ...&lt;BR /&gt;Custom version information: 12.3 (maintenance)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I would think the 12.3 doc I was looking at is correct for this version.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, I looked anyway at the 14.2 User's Guide and it has the exact same language as 12.3.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:35:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389357#M20294</guid>
      <dc:creator>jmorrison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T22:35:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Holm-Tukey" not "Tukey-Kramer" on GLIMMIX output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389605#M20301</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;HI all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I ended up asking SAS Tech Support about my question. FYI, here is the answer:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You've come across a known bug in the labeling of the effect comparison table. It should indeed be labeled as "Tukey-Kramer", and not "Holm-Tukey".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Janet&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:28:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/quot-Holm-Tukey-quot-not-quot-Tukey-Kramer-quot-on-GLIMMIX/m-p/389605#M20301</guid>
      <dc:creator>jmorrison</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-21T18:28:23Z</dc:date>
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