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    <title>topic Re: Simplified alternative to a glimmix model in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Simplified-alternative-to-a-glimmix-model/m-p/389278#M20287</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Graph it first.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With N=5 you don't have a sample size large enough to make summaries, but a good graph will be more effective for getting people to understand your data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:11:02 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-08-19T00:11:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Simplified alternative to a glimmix model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Simplified-alternative-to-a-glimmix-model/m-p/389274#M20286</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have pre/post data on a very few number of patients (n=5). Measurement X (continuous) was collected at random intervals starting from baseline (resting position) and with increasing heart rate. Each measurment was collected for each patient at variable ranges.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;E.g at heart rate 60, 75, 86, 100... for pt 1 pre&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; at heart rate 62, 66, 77, 109 for pt 1 post&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; at heart rate 70, 78, 91, 98 for pt 2 pre&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;About 5 measurements were collected at each test. Data was collected as a change from resting position for each patient, since the resting heart rate was variable per person.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to test the hypothesis that the magnitude of the change in measurement X from resting postion (baseline) was LESS after the intervention as compared to pre. The measurement does decrease with inreasing heart rate, but this is just a nuisance and we do not care about change with heart rate (dont care about differences in slope). So normally, I believe I would need to fit a mixed model to this data. But with only 5 patients, I do not think this is feasible. Is there any simplified test anyone could suggest I use to supplement a case overview? Since heart rate is not important here, should I consider:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(1) Just testing difference in X between pre and post, as tested from the maximum obtained heart rate for each patient (even if they are very variable)? Is there a way to standardize?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(2) I could just a frequency that everyone had data for and use that to test post /pre change to be consistent, but one of the subjects only got to a very small increase in heart rate post intervention so I am hesitant.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:32:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Melk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-18T23:32:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Simplified alternative to a glimmix model</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Simplified-alternative-to-a-glimmix-model/m-p/389278#M20287</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Graph it first.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With N=5 you don't have a sample size large enough to make summaries, but a good graph will be more effective for getting people to understand your data.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 00:11:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Simplified-alternative-to-a-glimmix-model/m-p/389278#M20287</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-08-19T00:11:02Z</dc:date>
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