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    <title>topic How to perform Ordered logit model? in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I conducted an experiment measuring the libido of my animals as a score from 0 to 3 in different season. i collected **bleep** for 11 days consecutively during each season now i want to see if season has an effect on libido. This is what i did:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Proc glimmix data= semendata;&lt;BR /&gt;class maleid age season;&lt;BR /&gt;model libido= season age season*age/ dist=multinomial link=cumlogit;&lt;BR /&gt;random maleid;&lt;BR /&gt;run; quit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found that there is a significant differences between seasons but when i want to perform the mean separation SAS gives me this error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ERROR: Least-squares means are not available for the multinomial distribution.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now my question is, is this the right way to run the odered logit model for such kind of data and secondly if it is, then how do i continue to compare the differences between the seasons since Type 3 revealed a significanct difference?.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any help will be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2017 19:22:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Education</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-06-07T19:22:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How to perform Ordered logit model?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-perform-Ordered-logit-model/m-p/365154#M19159</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I conducted an experiment measuring the libido of my animals as a score from 0 to 3 in different season. i collected **bleep** for 11 days consecutively during each season now i want to see if season has an effect on libido. This is what i did:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Proc glimmix data= semendata;&lt;BR /&gt;class maleid age season;&lt;BR /&gt;model libido= season age season*age/ dist=multinomial link=cumlogit;&lt;BR /&gt;random maleid;&lt;BR /&gt;run; quit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found that there is a significant differences between seasons but when i want to perform the mean separation SAS gives me this error:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ERROR: Least-squares means are not available for the multinomial distribution.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now my question is, is this the right way to run the odered logit model for such kind of data and secondly if it is, then how do i continue to compare the differences between the seasons since Type 3 revealed a significanct difference?.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any help will be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2017 19:22:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-perform-Ordered-logit-model/m-p/365154#M19159</guid>
      <dc:creator>Education</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-07T19:22:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to perform Ordered logit model?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-perform-Ordered-logit-model/m-p/365158#M19160</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A multinomial model just means that the response is one of k categories. The response could take on the values "red", "green", and blue, which is why&amp;nbsp;least squares means do not always make sense.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;An ordinal response is a special kind of multinomial model. To learn more about the various ordinal models and link functions that you can use in SAS, I recommend &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings13/445-2013.pdf" target="_self"&gt;High (2013) "Models for Ordinal Response Data."&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; The author shows several ESTIMATE statements for each kind of model.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2017 19:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-07T19:34:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How to perform Ordered logit model?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/How-to-perform-Ordered-logit-model/m-p/365183#M19162</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Rick&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for the paper you recommended. From reading that paper i added the ESTIMATES as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Proc glimmix data= semendata;&lt;BR /&gt;class maleid age season;&lt;BR /&gt;model libido= season age season*age/ dist=multinomial link=cumlogit;&lt;BR /&gt;random maleid;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "summer vs winter " season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "spring vs winter" season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "autumn vs winter" season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "summer vs spring" season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "summer vs autumn" season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;Estimate "spring vs autumn" season 1 1 -1-1;&lt;BR /&gt;run; quit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And the results of the estimates all looks identical like this:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS Output&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="branch"&gt;&lt;DIV align="center"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;TABLE cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;Estimates Label: Estimate&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;summer vs winter: 0.6118&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;Standard Error&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.7608&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;DF&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;422&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; t&amp;nbsp;Value&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.80&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Pr &amp;gt; |t| &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.4218&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;spring vs winter: 0.6118&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7608&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.80&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.4218&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;autumn vs winter: 0.6118&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7608&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.80&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.4218&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;summer vs spring: 0.6118&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7608&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.80&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.4218&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;summer vs autumn: 0.6118&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7608&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.80&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.4218&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;spring vs autumn: 0.6118&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7608&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.80&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.4218&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="branch"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="branch"&gt;Hence, below is my Type 3 results:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="branch"&gt;SAS Output&lt;DIV class="branch"&gt;&lt;DIV align="center"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;TABLE cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;Type III Tests of Fixed Effects&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Effect: Num DF&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Season: 3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;Den DF&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;422&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;F Value&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;26.48&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Pr&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;F &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;age: 1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.11&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;0.7428&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;age*Season: 3&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;422&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;14.24&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am abit worried about the identical estimates between seasons, did i do it the right way?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2017 21:19:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Education</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-07T21:19:52Z</dc:date>
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