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    <title>topic Bayesian estimate of the within and between variance with PROC MIXED ? in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Bayesian-estimate-of-the-within-and-between-variance-with-PROC/m-p/43498#M1914</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Wouldn't the REML estimates be adequate i.e., default estimates without the nobound option?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:22:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-11-11T13:22:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bayesian estimate of the within and between variance with PROC MIXED ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Bayesian-estimate-of-the-within-and-between-variance-with-PROC/m-p/43497#M1913</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Dear all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use a mixed model approach to estimate the within and between variance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This works fine, unless the the within variance is larger than the between variance. We do not want negative variance components (i.e. the “nobound” option in SAS proc mixed).&lt;BR /&gt;At the moment, we use JMP “variability charts” to obtain a Bayesian estimate of the within and between variance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the equivalent proc mixed code?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vaélrie&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:41:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2011-11-08T11:41:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bayesian estimate of the within and between variance with PROC MIXED ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Bayesian-estimate-of-the-within-and-between-variance-with-PROC/m-p/43498#M1914</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Wouldn't the REML estimates be adequate i.e., default estimates without the nobound option?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:22:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-11-11T13:22:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bayesian estimate of the within and between variance with PROC MIXED ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Bayesian-estimate-of-the-within-and-between-variance-with-PROC/m-p/43499#M1915</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; Hi Vaélrie,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The MIXED procedure does not support the Bayesian analysis. However, you can use PROC MCMC for fitting general Bayesian models. To specify linear and nonlinear random-effects models, you need to use the new RANDOM statement in the MCMC procedure. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Below is a link to a SAS Global Forum Paper which explains how to fit random-effects models with PROC MCMC:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings11/334-2011.pdf"&gt;http://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings11/334-2011.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Funda &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:07:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Funda_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-12-05T20:07:19Z</dc:date>
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