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    <title>topic Re: compute effect size in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327706#M17292</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you for the reaction. I have a dataset with 1 group measured 2 times, so I&amp;nbsp;used a paired t-test. But as you see when I calculate this in g*power I get a huge effect size. The effect size that&amp;nbsp;I get when using method 1 is different than when I use method 2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;METHOD 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I compute first the effect size in g*power in the additional window (effect size = 2,56).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I use this value to calculate the power (power = 1).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="effect size.png" alt="effect size.png" src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/6905iE839877F7BB8B8B6/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;METHOD 2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I first calculate the power in SAS (power = 0,9999).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I use this power value to calculate the effect size in G*power (effect size = 0,68)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="effect size 2.png" alt="effect size 2.png" src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/6906i9348311E4AD1B697/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can somebody explain this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;greetings,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aurélie&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Aurélie_D</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-01-26T16:21:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>compute effect size</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327675#M17289</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to compute the effect size of a variable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;mean group1 = 10,978&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;mean group 2 = 9,228&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;standard deviation 1 = 0,8402&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;standard deviation 2 = 0,5767&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;correlation = 0,59105&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I calculated the effecct size with g*power, but the result is 2,56. This is a very high value ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can&amp;nbsp;I compute this in SAS with this given information, or am I doing something wrong?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;greetings,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aurélie&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:20:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Aurélie_D</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-01-26T16:20:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: compute effect size</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327691#M17290</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do you have access to the raw data? What do you mean by EFFECT size? I'm used to see it in context of regression models not just summary statistics.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:35:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-01-26T12:35:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: compute effect size</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327692#M17291</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Assuming this paper is talking about the same thing you are, see the macro included.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://analytics.ncsu.edu/sesug/2012/SD-06.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;http://analytics.ncsu.edu/sesug/2012/SD-06.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:39:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327692#M17291</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-01-26T12:39:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: compute effect size</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327706#M17292</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thank you for the reaction. I have a dataset with 1 group measured 2 times, so I&amp;nbsp;used a paired t-test. But as you see when I calculate this in g*power I get a huge effect size. The effect size that&amp;nbsp;I get when using method 1 is different than when I use method 2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;METHOD 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I compute first the effect size in g*power in the additional window (effect size = 2,56).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I use this value to calculate the power (power = 1).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="effect size.png" alt="effect size.png" src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/6905iE839877F7BB8B8B6/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;METHOD 2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I first calculate the power in SAS (power = 0,9999).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then I use this power value to calculate the effect size in G*power (effect size = 0,68)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG title="effect size 2.png" alt="effect size 2.png" src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/6906i9348311E4AD1B697/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can somebody explain this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;greetings,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aurélie&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:21:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/compute-effect-size/m-p/327706#M17292</guid>
      <dc:creator>Aurélie_D</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-01-26T16:21:11Z</dc:date>
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