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    <title>topic Re: Compare goodness of fit between MNL and HB model - AIC, BIC, DIC, etc.? in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;There is DIC in BCHOICE that you can use to compare models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amy Shi&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:49:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>amyshi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-11-15T15:49:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Compare goodness of fit between MNL and HB model - AIC, BIC, DIC, etc.?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Compare-goodness-of-fit-between-MNL-and-HB-model-AIC-BIC-DIC-etc/m-p/311375#M16434</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to compare the goodness of fit of a MNL model, that I conducted through proc phreg and ties=breslow and a HB model that I conducted through proc bchoice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Which is the easiest way to compare the goodness of fit of those two models and how to I implement them in the codes?&lt;BR /&gt;I head that the Bayesian Information Criterion is useful but I couldn't find how you include it in the above named procedures.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alex&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:39:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ahoeweler</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T11:39:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Compare goodness of fit between MNL and HB model - AIC, BIC, DIC, etc.?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Compare-goodness-of-fit-between-MNL-and-HB-model-AIC-BIC-DIC-etc/m-p/311748#M16444</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There is DIC in BCHOICE that you can use to compare models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amy Shi&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SAS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:49:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Compare-goodness-of-fit-between-MNL-and-HB-model-AIC-BIC-DIC-etc/m-p/311748#M16444</guid>
      <dc:creator>amyshi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-15T15:49:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Compare goodness of fit between MNL and HB model - AIC, BIC, DIC, etc.?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Compare-goodness-of-fit-between-MNL-and-HB-model-AIC-BIC-DIC-etc/m-p/311754#M16445</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi amyshi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks for your answer, but how to I call the DIC measure in the MNL model that I call through the proc phreg command with the ties=breslow option? Because as far as I understood, the DIC measure is for Bayesian models but not for exclusive MNL models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alex&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:14:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ahoeweler</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-15T16:14:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Compare goodness of fit between MNL and HB model - AIC, BIC, DIC, etc.?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Compare-goodness-of-fit-between-MNL-and-HB-model-AIC-BIC-DIC-etc/m-p/311763#M16446</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;BCHOICE fits both MNL with fixed effects only and HB MNL with random effects. The fixed effects only model should agree with PHREG. So just use BCHOICE for choice data.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am part of the Bayesian Statistical Modeling group at SAS R&amp;amp;D that is responsible for developing the BCHOICE and MCMC procedures.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are interested and have more questions about BCHOICE, please write to me directly at amy.shi@sas.com&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;amy.shi@sas.com&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:28:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>amyshi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-15T16:28:24Z</dc:date>
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