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    <title>topic HELP - FACTORIAL LEVEL INCOMPLETE in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/HELP-FACTORIAL-LEVEL-INCOMPLETE/m-p/311300#M16429</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I finished an experiment with two factors: 1) fertilization level and 2) With bacteria&amp;nbsp;or without it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fact. A (fertilization) = 100%,70%,30% y 0% &amp;nbsp;(four levels)&lt;BR /&gt;Fact. B (Bacteria) = Yes / No &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(two levels)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have seven treatmentes, because I only have 100% without the bacteria. I took&amp;nbsp;4 measures duringin a month, each measure uses 6 plants per treatment.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T1: Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ 0%fertilization &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T2: NObacteria &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;/ 0% fert. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T3:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ 30% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T4:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp;30% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T5:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ &amp;nbsp;70% fert. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T6:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp; 70% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T7: &lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp; 100% fert. &amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I need help with my design and codes. Thank you.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 02:34:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>AndresRod</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-11-14T02:34:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>HELP - FACTORIAL LEVEL INCOMPLETE</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/HELP-FACTORIAL-LEVEL-INCOMPLETE/m-p/311300#M16429</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I finished an experiment with two factors: 1) fertilization level and 2) With bacteria&amp;nbsp;or without it.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;So:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fact. A (fertilization) = 100%,70%,30% y 0% &amp;nbsp;(four levels)&lt;BR /&gt;Fact. B (Bacteria) = Yes / No &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(two levels)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have seven treatmentes, because I only have 100% without the bacteria. I took&amp;nbsp;4 measures duringin a month, each measure uses 6 plants per treatment.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T1: Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ 0%fertilization &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T2: NObacteria &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;/ 0% fert. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T3:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ 30% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;T4:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp;30% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T5:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Withbacteria &amp;nbsp;/ &amp;nbsp;70% fert. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T6:&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp; 70% fert &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;T7: &lt;SPAN&gt;NObacteria &amp;nbsp; / &amp;nbsp; 100% fert. &amp;nbsp;(6 plants/week) x (four weeks)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I need help with my design and codes. Thank you.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2016 02:34:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/HELP-FACTORIAL-LEVEL-INCOMPLETE/m-p/311300#M16429</guid>
      <dc:creator>AndresRod</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-14T02:34:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: HELP - FACTORIAL LEVEL INCOMPLETE</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/HELP-FACTORIAL-LEVEL-INCOMPLETE/m-p/315571#M16629</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you have access to Milliken and Johnson's&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;Analysis of Messy Data, vol. 1&lt;/EM&gt;, you could see their approach (termed a "means model") where they fit the response as the highest level interaction, and then create tests and contrasts to fit the research questions. &amp;nbsp;A google search on "means model" turned up a lot of hits.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Here is a link to an example, which would cover your whole plot analysis:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/sas/faq/cell_mean_coding_contrast.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/sas/faq/cell_mean_coding_contrast.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now, you have the additional design element of a repeated measures part, so you would need to port the code to PROC MIXED to correctly accommodate the covariance between the repeat measures. &amp;nbsp;Rather than ESTIMATE statments, LSMESTIMATE statements might be more useful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would suggest getting a whole plot analysis, and then sharing that code. &amp;nbsp;From there, we could craft PROC MIXED code to correctly handle the repeated part.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:51:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/HELP-FACTORIAL-LEVEL-INCOMPLETE/m-p/315571#M16629</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-30T15:51:49Z</dc:date>
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