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    <title>topic Re: Derived Variable in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293416#M15610</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;If it's too relate to your definition of attrition it won't make logical sense. It'll make your model seem more accurate than it actually is..&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:15:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-08-23T13:15:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293364#M15604</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am building a retail customer attrition model for saving accounts of a bank. I am targeting both soft and hard attrition (Dependent Variable).&lt;BR /&gt;By 'soft attrition', i mean if saving balance drops by 80% or more. By 'hard attrition', i mean customer closes his account.&lt;BR /&gt;My question - can i use % balance change as a predictor/ independent variable in the model. Since i am already taking customers having 80% or more balance dropped&amp;nbsp;as an event in the dependent variable, would it be right to use the % change as an independent variable in the model?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:32:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ujjawal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T07:32:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293367#M15605</link>
      <description>&lt;PRE&gt;
What kind of model are you using ?
If it is logistic model , I think you can use % balance change as Y .
For example:

data have;
 set have;
retain n 1;
 per_balance_change=.........;
run;

proc logistic ...........
 model per_balance_change/n = ...........;

You can take HARD as per_balance_change=1  .
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:51:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293367#M15605</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T07:51:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293375#M15606</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As long as the information predates your knowledge of their attrition. So perhaps % change in prior month?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Using it over same period as your definition of dependent would be incorrect as then this is Informatiom is after the fact.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:04:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293375#M15606</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T10:04:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293377#M15607</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;80% drop from where? Maximum all time balance? Previous three months? &amp;nbsp;As&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13879"&gt;@Reeza﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;says, you&amp;nbsp;might want to introduce a lagged variable (3 or 6 months?) to help you formulate this model.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:14:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293377#M15607</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T10:14:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293411#M15608</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks everyone for your response. &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13684"&gt;@Rick_SAS﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13879"&gt;@Reeza﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Yes, it's 80% drop from maximum all time balance. I have considered it as a target variable. Can i use % balance change &amp;nbsp;from maximum all time balance as an independent variable? If i am not wrong, you are suggesting i can use % change in 3 months or 6 months as independent variables, not % balance change from maximum all time balance.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293411#M15608</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ujjawal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T12:58:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293414#M15609</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;SAS will enable you to build either model. I don't have any intuition about which will perform best, so I will leave that modeling decision to you. &amp;nbsp; You can test multiple models on historial data and choose the one that performs the best.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:05:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293414#M15609</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T13:05:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derived Variable</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293416#M15610</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If it's too relate to your definition of attrition it won't make logical sense. It'll make your model seem more accurate than it actually is..&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:15:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Derived-Variable/m-p/293416#M15610</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-23T13:15:57Z</dc:date>
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