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    <title>topic Re: How do I run PROC GLIMMIX with spatial autocorrelation (SAS v9.4)? in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot Steve for taking time out and responding. Firstly, I tried to look up SAS GLIMMIX documentation for anisotropic spatial correlation and I don’t think PROC GLIMMIX supports it. Secondly, I checked my data and looks like X (longitude degrees of the center of ZC) and Y (latitude degrees of the center of ZC) are decimal representations. Lastly, thanks for suggesting method=laplace. When I try to run the model with method=laplace, I get a SAS warning that “Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the covariance parameters failed. So I added ‘parms (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;) (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;)/ noiter’ and the model converges and I get an output that looks right.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just have two more questions – I specified parms (0.4) since the initial GLIMMIX model (that simple accounted for clustering at ZC level) showed a Covariance Parameter Estimate of 0.4. Is this a right approach?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And with the following codes, I get no estimate for standard error of the spatial covariance parameter. Is this common or is my code wrong?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Glimmix&lt;/STRONG&gt; data =&amp;nbsp; library.ZC1&amp;nbsp; NOCLPRINT METHOD=LAPLACE ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class&amp;nbsp; ZC;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model&amp;nbsp; Count =&amp;nbsp; white&amp;nbsp; black&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; adults&amp;nbsp; older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; averageHHsize/&amp;nbsp; dist = poisson offset = lnPop solution&amp;nbsp; DDFM=BW;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / Subject = ZC type=sp(exp)(X Y);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;parms (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;) (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;)/ noiter;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Covariance Parameter Estimates&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Cov Parm&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; Subject&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Estimate&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SE&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Variance&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ZC&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.4000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0.01039&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SP(EXP)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ZC&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.4000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2016 03:34:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>patelam9</dc:creator>
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      <title>How do I run PROC GLIMMIX with spatial autocorrelation (SAS v9.4)?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am using PROC GLIMMIX for the first time and do not have any expertise in spatial analyses. I have Zip Code level data with positive spatial autocorrelation. I am interested in running a regression model to examine the association of some area level predictors with the number of people with the illness of interest in an area. I am using PROC GLIMMIX to account for clustering at Zip Code level and for spatial autocorrelation. When I use the following statements as Step 1 (to simply account for clustering at Zip Code level), PROC GLIMMIX model converges and I get an output that makes practical sense however with overdispersion (the model does not converge when I use ‘random _residual_;’ statement for overdispersion, or any other DDFM method).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Count is the number of people with the illness. All predictors are continuous variables. White, black, adults, older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; are proportions. Offset is the log of population. There are about 12,000 observations at ZC level in the ZC1 dataset.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Step 1:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Glimmix&lt;/STRONG&gt; data =&amp;nbsp; library.ZC1&amp;nbsp; NOCLPRINT ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class&amp;nbsp; ZC;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model&amp;nbsp; Count =&amp;nbsp; white&amp;nbsp; black&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; adults&amp;nbsp; older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; averageHHsize/&amp;nbsp; dist = poisson offset = lnPop solution&amp;nbsp; DDFM=BW;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / Subject = ZC ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In Step 2, I run the same statements but this time adding the ZC centroid information (X and Y represent the latitude and longitude of the ZC). Model converges once again but I get an output exactly the same as in Step 1 and still have overdispersion. Here are the SAS statements from Step 2. Can someone please tell me what am I doing wrong here? Thanks a lot.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Step 2:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Glimmix&lt;/STRONG&gt; data =&amp;nbsp; library.ZC1&amp;nbsp; NOCLPRINT ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class&amp;nbsp; ZC;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model&amp;nbsp; Count =&amp;nbsp; white&amp;nbsp; black&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; adults&amp;nbsp; older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; averageHHsize/&amp;nbsp; dist = poisson offset = lnPop solution&amp;nbsp; DDFM=BW;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / Subject = ZC type=sp(exp)(X Y);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2016 03:06:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2016-06-29T03:06:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I run PROC GLIMMIX with spatial autocorrelation (SAS v9.4)?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Try running these as conditional models, using method=laplace in the PROC GLIMMIX statement. &amp;nbsp;Just a hunch. &amp;nbsp;Also, you may want to arbitrarily 'center' your coordinates, so that you don't have extreme values. &amp;nbsp;Lastly, I would almost certainly suspect that the spatial correlation is anisotropic. &amp;nbsp;If the anisotropic&amp;nbsp;exponential is available in GLIMMIX, you might want to try that. I know it is available in PROC MIXED, but&amp;nbsp;the only anisotropic structure I see in the GLIMMIX documentation is anisotropic spatial power.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Oh yeah, if&amp;nbsp;latitude and longitude are decimal representations, you should be good to go; otherwise you may have to convert to actual distances in the X and Y plane. &amp;nbsp;If the locations are substantially separated, so that at higher latitude, the same difference in longitude values would lead to a major change in the physical distance between the centroids, you really might need to change to distances.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:14:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: How do I run PROC GLIMMIX with spatial autocorrelation (SAS v9.4)?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot Steve for taking time out and responding. Firstly, I tried to look up SAS GLIMMIX documentation for anisotropic spatial correlation and I don’t think PROC GLIMMIX supports it. Secondly, I checked my data and looks like X (longitude degrees of the center of ZC) and Y (latitude degrees of the center of ZC) are decimal representations. Lastly, thanks for suggesting method=laplace. When I try to run the model with method=laplace, I get a SAS warning that “Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the covariance parameters failed. So I added ‘parms (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;) (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;)/ noiter’ and the model converges and I get an output that looks right.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just have two more questions – I specified parms (0.4) since the initial GLIMMIX model (that simple accounted for clustering at ZC level) showed a Covariance Parameter Estimate of 0.4. Is this a right approach?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And with the following codes, I get no estimate for standard error of the spatial covariance parameter. Is this common or is my code wrong?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Glimmix&lt;/STRONG&gt; data =&amp;nbsp; library.ZC1&amp;nbsp; NOCLPRINT METHOD=LAPLACE ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class&amp;nbsp; ZC;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model&amp;nbsp; Count =&amp;nbsp; white&amp;nbsp; black&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; adults&amp;nbsp; older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; averageHHsize/&amp;nbsp; dist = poisson offset = lnPop solution&amp;nbsp; DDFM=BW;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / Subject = ZC type=sp(exp)(X Y);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;parms (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;) (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.4&lt;/STRONG&gt;)/ noiter;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Covariance Parameter Estimates&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Cov Parm&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; Subject&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Estimate&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SE&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Variance&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ZC&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.4000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0.01039&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SP(EXP)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ZC&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.4000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2016 03:34:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: How do I run PROC GLIMMIX with spatial autocorrelation (SAS v9.4)?</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;With the noiter option, the&amp;nbsp;variance components are fixed and should have no standard error. &amp;nbsp;What happens if you remove this, and just specify the starting values?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2016 17:50:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2016-07-01T17:50:40Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your response Steve. I did just that. I ran the model after removing noiter as below.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The output now shows Cov Parameter Estimate for ZC (estimate = 0.2970, SE = 0.007635) but the estimate for SP(EXP) is fixed at 0.1 and has no SE. Is that a correct output or I should be getting an estimate and SE for SP(EXP) as well?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also &lt;STRONG&gt;overdispersion&lt;/STRONG&gt; (Pearson Chi-Square / DF) in this model is 1.593E22 which is unusual. Is this common with conditional distribution (since I used METHOD = LAPLACE)? Thanks a lot!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Glimmix&lt;/STRONG&gt; data =&amp;nbsp; library.ZC1&amp;nbsp; NOCLPRINT METHOD=LAPLACE ;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class&amp;nbsp; ZC;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model&amp;nbsp; Count =&amp;nbsp; white&amp;nbsp; black&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; adults&amp;nbsp; older_adults&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; averageHHsize/&amp;nbsp; dist = poisson offset = lnPop solution&amp;nbsp; DDFM=BW;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept / Subject = ZC type=sp(exp)(X Y);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;parms (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.1&lt;/STRONG&gt;) (&lt;STRONG&gt;0.1&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Covariance Parameter Estimates&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Cov Parm&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Subject&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Estimate&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Standard Error&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Z Value&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Pr &amp;gt; Z&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Variance&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;ZC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.2968&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.007630&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;38.90&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;.0001&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;SP(EXP)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;ZC&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.1000&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:09:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;This really looks like "nothing happened". &amp;nbsp;The spatial correlation is still at 0.1, and that makes me think that the values of X and Y are such that the Euclidean distance between observations is huge, and consequently, no correlation is fit. &amp;nbsp;Ridging might help here, so try adding:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;NLOPTIONS tech=nrridg;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;as a line.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, the documentation says c-list has the names of the numeric variables (so check that X and Y aren't somehow still character values), for the ith vector and the jth vector, which correspond to the ith and jth observations. &amp;nbsp;That implies a dependence on the sort order of the observations, so it would probably be good to presort the data on X and Y.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And last, "The practical range of a (second-order stationary) spatial process is the distance at whcih the correlations fall below 0.05. &amp;nbsp;For the SP(EXP) structure this disance is 3*alpha." This alpha is the denominator in the covariance equation, so maybe by setting the initial guess to 0.1, it gets stuck. &amp;nbsp;You might try (hopefully I have these in the correct order):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;parms (0.3) (0.1 to 0.9 by 0.1);&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This should lead to a grid search across various correlation values, and maybe from there something will get "unstuck".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
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